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Re: Mysore: Tipu Sultan (1782-1799) AE Paisa, Nagar Mint (KM#103.8)
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2014, 09:56:14 PM »
Vic I am sure Zohara does not mean struck,I am not sure if it means venus. I wanted to tell this the other day but left as I dont know the correct meaning.
lots of persian words are also used in urdu(one of the local languages in india)

Well I have never tried to say I was an expert  :D ::) far from it & in fact I'm slowly learning to read parts of Persian along with many others so sorry for misleading you (& myself) ;D
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Re: Mysore: Tipu Sultan (1782-1799) AE Paisa, Nagar Mint (KM#103.8)
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2014, 10:03:34 PM »
hey no worries, I infact get to learn so much here from you and others and if you don't call yourself an expert then I am not even worth calling myself a novice ;D
actually this was easy for me because I know urdu. I appreciate your efforts in learning persian.It is known as a sweet language.

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Re: Mysore: Tipu Sultan (1782-1799) AE Paisa, Nagar Mint (KM#103.8)
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2014, 09:58:59 AM »
the name Zohra  (zhorah) / planet has an arabic origin and is also used in Urdu I think
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Re: Mysore: Tipu Sultan (1782-1799) AE Paisa, Nagar Mint (KM#103.8)
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2014, 10:26:25 AM »
hey no worries, I infact get to learn so much here from you and others and if you don't call yourself an expert then I am not even worth calling myself a novice ;D
actually this was easy for me because I know urdu. I appreciate your efforts in learning persian.It is known as a sweet language.

I got misled by seeing the spelling of the word zarb as zahrab in some old letters I have from an indian coin seller, I've seen it spelled that way in other places also
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Re: Mysore: Tipu Sultan (1782-1799) AE Paisa, Nagar Mint (KM#103.8)
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2014, 09:03:37 PM »
( KM#103.8 )

what does this in the title mean?
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Re: Mysore: Tipu Sultan (1782-1799) AE Paisa, Nagar Mint (KM#103.8)
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2014, 09:54:47 PM »
KM#103.8 is the catalog number from Krause's book, Standard Catalog of World Coins 1701-1800.  If you look up the number 103.8 under Mysore, you will find your coin  :).  It is an easy way to classify coins for easy identification, so that we all know which coin we are talking about.  Even coins that look identical might have small differences that are classified using different numbers.  Note that the prices shown are way off as they have not been updated in years...



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Re: Mysore: Tipu Sultan (1782-1799) AE Paisa, Nagar Mint (KM#103.8)
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2014, 11:40:02 PM »
The prices ( given in US Dollars) are way out as Quant.Geek says & can only really be used as a very basic quide as to whether a coin is common or scarce/rare etc, the recently published South Asian coins & paper money 'Indian edition' has all the Indian sections from the 5 individual Krause catalogues of world coins from 1600AD onwards & you should try & get a copy if you can (it's actually published in India)
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Re: Mysore: Tipu Sultan (1782-1799) AE Paisa, Nagar Mint (KM#103.8)
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2014, 08:13:54 PM »
thanks Vic and Ram beautifully illustrated and explained. Got to learn very useful stuff with regards to coins. Can someone also ell me what does VF, XF, etc mean? Is it condition of coins?

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Re: Mysore: Tipu Sultan (1782-1799) AE Paisa, Nagar Mint (KM#103.8)
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2014, 11:42:18 PM »
See this thread.

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Re: Mysore: Tipu Sultan (1782-1799) AE Paisa, Nagar Mint (KM#103.8)
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2014, 09:40:05 PM »
thanks Peter, beautifully illustrated and explained

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Re: Mysore: Tipu Sultan (1782-1799) AE Paisa, Nagar Mint (KM#103.8)
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2019, 12:53:54 PM »
Very nice acquisition and congrats on your venture towards the coins of Tipu Sultan. As a firm believer in the age old quote "give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime".  I suggest you download the following books, which are free, and try to answer your own question.  It is this type of research that adds value to coin collecting.  Of course, when you are stuck, you can always ask for help :D.  You loose out in the end if you don't do the research up front and ask for help immediately.  That is one of the joys of owning a piece of history:

Henderson, J.R., The Coins of Haidar Ali and Tipu Sultan, Madras Government Press, 1921
Jackson, R.P., Coin Collecting in Mysore, British Numismatic Journal, 1908
Thurston, Edgar, Coins. Catalogue No. 1 - Mysore with Eleven Plates, Madras Government Press, 1888
Tufnell, R.H., Catalogue of Mysore Coins in the Collection of the Government Museum, Bangalore, Madras Government Press, 1889

Come back and see if you can find the answer and post it here.  VicN has already given you a big clue with the date and mint...

Cheers,

Ram

Hi Quant Geek,

Thank you very much!! I had this coin handed over to me by my late grandfather and since been trying to get some history on this. Finally the links you provided did the trick. KM# 103.9, 1799 CE, 20 Cash, Nagar Mint. This also turns out be last specimen of the Tipu coinage and was minted with in a month of him being killed in the battle.

Thanks again for the links. It is amazing to know the journey of this coin into a small non-descript village.

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Re: Mysore: Tipu Sultan (1782-1799) AE Paisa, Nagar Mint (KM#103.8)
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2019, 01:41:36 PM »
Dear numisagar
I have a similar coin of the year 1227.

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Re: Mysore: Tipu Sultan (1782-1799) AE Paisa, Nagar Mint (KM#103.8)
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2019, 04:09:03 PM »
Nice.

I am totally newbee to the coin collection hobby. This website is really good find for me as it seems to have very knowledgeable collectors. Senior people like you can definitely help newbees develop interest in this hobby. I have more coins given to me by my grandfather, will try to post them as well. But markings on them are completely worn out. Let me see if anyone can suggest a way to identify the coins even if markings are not visible.

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Re: Mysore: Tipu Sultan (1782-1799) AE Paisa, Nagar Mint (KM#103.8)
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2019, 04:58:02 PM »
We will definitely try and help you with that. The present coin of Tipu is a valuable one. It will be interesting to know how it landed in your grand dad's hands, let us know which place he was from.
I mostly collect Mysore -Tipu coins. But different collectors have different interests.

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Re: Mysore: Tipu Sultan (1782-1799) AE Paisa, Nagar Mint (KM#103.8)
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2019, 08:09:32 AM »
Thanks!

Nagara mint is like an hour's journey from my place, and next to Ikkeri, erstwhile capital of Keladi Nayakas before they shifted it to Nagara. So it is not very surprising that it ended up with him.