Liard ND (1650-88) KM#73, Vanhoudt G1311

[Globetrotter]

Hi,

on the first image I can see a shield with a pattern going down from right to left, but I have not been able to identify it...

The second image is rather limited in what it shows!

I have tried to google the text found, but no result.

Alloy: bronze / copper
weight: 3.21 grs
widest diameter: 22.96 mm
thickest point: 1.08 mm
orientation: not possible to say

Thanks for your help

Ole

[Figleaf]

Luik/Liège, half oord ND in the name of Maximilian-Heinrich of Bavaria (1650-1688), possibly minted in Hasselt. Vanhoudt G1304.

obv: arms of Bavaria with episcopal crown .MAXimilianvs.HENdricvs.Dei.Gratia.ARChiepiscopus.COLoniae - Maximilian-Henry by the grace of god archbishop of Cologne.
rev: Liège arms covered with episcopal crown on crossed crosier (spiritual power) and sword (temporal power) breaking through legend. EPiscopvS ET.PRINCeps.LEOdivm.DVX.BVLionis - bishop and prince of Luik duke of Bouillon.

Turned your reverse in the right direction.

Peter

[andyg]

The pattern on the shield seems opposite to the diagram - and as far as I can tell the picture of the shield on the coin isn't upside down

[Globetrotter]

It's not the shield side, which has been turned

I must admit, that the shield might be Bavarian (although not in Blue and White and no dirdnl )

Thanks Peter, I'll look nearer into your suggestion tomorrow?

Ole

[Figleaf]

I noticed the different pattern. I lost my specimen of this piece, but pictures on the net have the lozenges going from upper left to bottom right, which is the correct way for the House of Wittelsbach.

Not sure what you mean by your second remark. I can reconstruct good parts of the legend, so I am pretty sure I got the right coin in the right position.

Peter

[Globetrotter]

Hi Peter,

it also looks right to me, but the out-line of the shield is worrying me. The rest sems to be OK, so it's probably just me being up too late.

Ole

[SpaBreda]

Maybe it's a Liard ND(1650-88) KM#73 ... ?

According to the picture in krause that one has the pattern in the same direction ...

Paul.

[Figleaf]

You're quite right, Paul. The regular type has an inner circle around the (correctly drawn) Bavarian arms, but there's also this type. Vanhoudt G1311.

Peter

[Globetrotter]

Good morning Peter and Paul,

thanks for your extensive and very qualified help. So I have found those images of the Liege km73 (from Numista), which seem to correspond to what my coin is.

Thanks again

Ole