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Re: Apothecaries weights
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2015, 09:16:21 AM »
Seems I am losing some scruples! I just found this 1 SCRUPLE on the floor; brass 13.3mm wt 1scruple!
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Re: Apothecaries weights
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2015, 04:35:03 PM »
You aren't losing them, you are finding them. May you find many more ;)

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Re: Apothecaries weights
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2015, 11:01:53 AM »
'Weight' a bit I have found another, this was in a job lot and had a mount soldered on which I have removed successfully. Some must had it suspended from a necklace.

TWO DRACHMS 3ij and again signed by the mysterious J.L.B. consimilar 22.8mm
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Re: Apothecaries weights
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2015, 06:07:18 AM »
More scruples gained today.

1 Scruple with impressed crown ER 65 presumably 1965

2 Scruples with impressed crown GR 224 perhaps George V 1922 4th month or 1924 2nd month?

4 grains pressed brass sheet uncertain mark - perhaps impressed crown GR 37 for George VI 1937
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Re: Apothecaries weights
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2015, 07:31:39 AM »
Brilliant, Malcolm. These could form a highly interesting collection by themselves. Are you aware of any catalogue?

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Re: Apothecaries weights
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2015, 11:43:50 AM »
I do have several books about the subject perhaps the best for the more general type would be Scales & Weights A Historical outline by Bruno Kisch. 4th edition 1975

I don't know of any catalogue of the Apothecaries weights.
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Re: Apothecaries weights
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2015, 03:01:38 PM »
The number under the crown is the inspector's number, rather than the date, and I  believe this number can be tied in to the district he was working in, though I can't quote a referance at the moment.

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[Edit] I've found a reference to a list of these numbers in pp.30-31 of a Shire book, Weights and Measures and Their Marks by John Thomas Graham, but unfortunately the Google preview of this omits pp.16-33 so I can't give you the details until I get hold of the book.
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Re: Apothecaries weights
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2015, 04:00:35 AM »
Yes of course! and I do have the Shire book, Weights and Measures by John Thomas Graham this shows that the verification marks is the Monarchs crown and initials followed by the numbers for

65 Wolverhampton
224 Kidderminster
37 Sheffield

There is nothing to differentiate between George V aand VI but for the present queen the ER used for Edward VII had the digits II inserted between, thus EIIR as shown in Reply #18

I have another Shire book, Scales and Balances also by John Thomas Graham.
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Re: Apothecaries weights
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2015, 04:03:39 AM »
Yet another weight arrived today in another job lot.

2 Drachms brass 18.7mm square.
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Re: Apothecaries weights
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2016, 06:40:34 AM »
Yet another 2 scruples signed J L B consimilar brass 17.2mm

A cracked reverse die that has resulted in the weight needing to be filed to get it to correct weight.
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Re: Apothecaries weights
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2016, 08:04:52 AM »
Wow! That die was very close to breaking when the weight was struck. A little prize piece, Malcolm. Congratulations.

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Re: Apothecaries weights
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2016, 10:14:48 AM »
I have done another scan and here it is again without compressing this time. It show the die is even worse than it appeared before.
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Re: Apothecaries weights
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2016, 05:56:00 PM »
Here's some W& T A's (William and Thomas Avery) I picked up a while back.
I'm missing the half scruple  :'(
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Re: Apothecaries weights
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2016, 06:19:33 PM »
And a couple of other pieces

Rogers First Type and an Avery 1850 Lozenge Type

Handy website that  8)
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Re: Apothecaries weights
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2016, 07:58:28 AM »
Nice set of weights, pity about the missing half scruple but you may find another one day, as I did with a set of metric weights in a box with the largest piece missing. I found the solitary piece in an antique shop and so was able to complete the set.
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