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South African Van Riebeeck Replikas
« on: April 25, 2014, 05:25:24 AM »
The full set comprising twelve replica coins of coins used in South Africa between 1652 and 1830. The reverse of each is marked "Van Riebeeck Replika" These were packed in tins of van Riebeeck instant coffee.

Issued in conjunction with the 1952 Jan van Riebeeck festival  in Cape Town which opened on 13 March 1952 and was officially proclaimed as Africa's version of the Crystal Palace Empire Exhibition that was held in London in 1851. This was celebrating the Jan van Riebeeck Tercentenary on the 6th April 1952.

Shown are four of the van Riebeeck replica coins. More yet to find.

VOC Bonk 4 3/4 Stuiver 1785
Duit
Cartwheel penny or Dubbletjie 1797
1 Stuiver 1783
« Last Edit: April 26, 2014, 04:03:16 AM by malj1 »
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Re: South African Van Riebeeck Replikas
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2014, 08:17:07 AM »
Here are some more:

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Re: South African Van Riebeeck Replikas
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2014, 09:21:36 AM »
Very nice. that leaves just four more to find.

Some appear to be more common than others.
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Re: South African Van Riebeeck Replikas
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2014, 04:53:37 PM »
The missing ones are:

Silver Shilling George III
Gold Mohur
Piece-of-Eight
Duit of Holland

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Re: South African Van Riebeeck Replikas
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2014, 11:19:29 PM »
  • The VOC bar and the stuiver 1783 were minted in Colombo (Ceylon).
  • The duit has the Utrecht arms. In view of the other coins, it's likely to be VOC.
  • The cartwheel penny is of course British.
  • The ship coin was minted in Enkhuizen (the Netherlands) for the Cape colony. They were circulated in the Netherlands East Indies, though, because the Cape was British-occupied when they arrived. Denominations range from 1/16 to 1 gulden.
  • The Dukaton was struck in Utrecht. It can be local or VOC, but in view of the other coins, it is more likely to be based on a VOC coin.
  • The quarter coin with counterstamp C is a 25 cent 1838 Curaçao - rather late compared to the others and geographically out of place. Host coin is a Netherlands gulden.
  • The silver dukaat is a Dutch coin.
  • In theory, the second duit shown by Prosit could be a Dutch coin, Overijssel 1702 or 1703. In practice, it is highly likely to be a VOC duit 1726-1793, Dordrecht (Holland) mint.
  • Malcolm's top piece is a British shilling 1787.
  • The "piece of eight" is pictured upside down. It is an 8 reales 1718 Lima. The first line reads I 8 (denomination) M, the second PLV SVL TRA (plus ultra), the third M 718 (date) I
  • That leaves only the mohur. I couldn't find it. It looks like a milled coin (therefore pre-1835) with regnal year 31.
Apart from the counterstamped coin, I would expect all to have circulated in the Cape colony after 1806, when it became clear that the British did not intend to return what they had taken. The British coins would have come from British soldiers. None have anything to do with Van Riebeeck (who arrived in 1652, leaving in 1662)

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Re: South African Van Riebeeck Replikas
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2014, 01:59:08 AM »
I am glad to see this thread. I posted about my two many years ago and got no information. I don't think I posted them here though. Think the one on the right is different from those posted here but maybe I overlooked it.


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Re: South African Van Riebeeck Replikas
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2014, 04:00:52 AM »
I am glad to see this thread. I posted about my two many years ago and got no information. I don't think I posted them here though. Think the one on the right is different from those posted here but maybe I overlooked it.
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Your second piece I think is the Duit of Holland, the first shows the Utrecht Duit; both said to be VOC

Apart from the counterstamped coin, I would expect all to have circulated in the Cape colony after 1806, when it became clear that the British did not intend to return what they had taken. The British coins would have come from British soldiers. None have anything to do with Van Riebeeck (who arrived in 1652, leaving in 1662)
Peter

These were intended as Van Riebeeck coffee advertising showing early coinage from South Africa's past. No doubt they had a stand at the at the festival for the 1952 Tercentenary celebrations where they would be keenly advertising their coffee and maybe even handing out samples.

Here are the remaining three items.

Silver Shilling George III
Gold Mohur
Piece-of-Eight


edit Piece-of-Eight rotated
« Last Edit: August 13, 2014, 03:27:23 AM by malj1 »
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Re: South African Van Riebeeck Replikas
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2014, 01:35:18 PM »
I found a piccy of these in a holder ;D
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Re: South African Van Riebeeck Replikas
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2014, 01:56:13 PM »
Good.  :)  I believe it is very difficult to assemble a full collection now.
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Re: South African Van Riebeeck Replikas
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2014, 02:03:35 PM »
I bought them all, but shipping from South Africa has some risks. I wait now several weeks. Additionally our German customs is very slow ...

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Re: South African Van Riebeeck Replikas
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2014, 02:20:57 PM »
Good.  :)  I believe it is very difficult to assemble a full collection now.

I've seen a few available on the internet.  If you want one I'll send you a link.
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Re: South African Van Riebeeck Replikas
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2014, 02:34:23 PM »
I have found all these on the net but most are already sold.



A problem too I found with converting the currency to know if its a good deal!  ???
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Re: South African Van Riebeeck Replikas
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2014, 02:41:02 PM »
I've sent you a link for one for $60 OZ.  Or make an offer - it says.  ;)
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Re: South African Van Riebeeck Replikas
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2014, 02:48:23 PM »
Postage too ?  ;D I don't want to spend that much out of my pension!  ::)

I have all the images now, that will suffice thanks.
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Re: South African Van Riebeeck Replikas
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2014, 02:50:22 PM »
Offer them 400 including post! :-*
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