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New pound coins in 2017

Started by andyg, March 18, 2014, 11:47:34 PM

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Someone rightly pointed out that the demonetisation on Jersey is not limited to their round pound coin but that they in 1981 also issued a commemorative square 1 pound coin into circulation (mintage 200,000). That one ceased to be legal tender too on October 15 and has now been added to the overview. Furthermore it also includes all 1 pound collectors coins issued by Jersey.

The only thing that is still missing from the overview is Saint Helena and Ascension which will soon provide me information on their plans.

Alan71

The only collector coins issued by Jersey were the circulation issues (12 parish designs and seven shipbuilding coins).  Guernsey and Alderney did both issue commemorative £1 coins in silver, but these weren't circulation issues and weren't produced in base metals.

In reality, Jersey's square £1 would probably have been a non-circulating commemorative.


eurocoin

Well, there are a few Jersey collectors coins with a denomination of 1 pound (see here for example). Nothing major of course.

As for the second part I do not know. I think the mintage is quite high for it not having been in circulation and Wikipedia mentions it was occasionally found in circulation.

malj1

Here is what A.L.T. McCammon in Currencies of the Anglo-Norman Isles had to say at the time:

In 1981, exactly 1500 years after the burial of Childeric and his golden solidi in
Merovingian France (see above), one pound coins were struck for Jersey and Guernsey.
Only the specimen collectors’ pieces were struck in gold, it is true, but the reader
will now perhaps be able to see that a link - albeit a tenuous one - exists. The Jersey
pound and the Guernsey pound are quite different coins: Jersey borrowed the square design
of the old Guernsey 10-shilling piece and simultaneously commemorated the Jersey Militia
and the part it played in the Battle of Jersey 200 years ago when the French, under Baron
de Rullecourt, landed their forces for the last time in the Island, but were defeated by
the Militia and the garrison under the command of Major Peirson. Guernsey issued a
sovereign-sized coin in a gold-coloured alloy intended essentially for circulation.


...intended essentially for circulation. ???
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

<k>

Quote from: malj1 on February 18, 2018, 10:52:39 AM
Here is what A.L.T. McCammon in Currencies of the Anglo-Norman Isles had to say at the time:
but the reader  will now perhaps be able to see that a link - albeit a tenuous one - exists.

A link between what? The Jersey and Guernsey coins? Between those and the UK pound?

Quote
...intended essentially for circulation. ???

But the islanders decided otherwise.  :D
Visit the website of The Royal Mint Museum.

See: The Royal Mint Museum.

malj1

Quote from: <k> on February 18, 2018, 11:54:27 AM
A link between what? The Jersey and Guernsey coins? Between those and the UK pound?

But the islanders decided otherwise.  :D

You need to see the rest of the chapter on the decimal currency. Both islands having issued the lesser denominations by D-day, then in 1981 both issued a one pound followed in 1982 with the 20p then at the time of writing (February 1984) a new series of Jersey 1p, 2p, 5p, 10p and 50p had just been realised.
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

Alan71

Quote from: eurocoin on February 18, 2018, 10:14:38 AM
Well, there are a few Jersey collectors coins with a denomination of 1 pound (see here for example). Nothing major of course.
That's a horrible coin!  Looks like it was only struck in gold.  It seems to be one of many commemoratives that uses Jersey's name but has very little connection to the island.  Similar coins have been issued with the same obverses with similar inscriptions in the same fonts - Elizabeth II Alderney / Bailiwick of Guernsey / Bailiwick of Jersey.  I count the "true" Jersey coins as the ones with "Bailiwick of Jersey" on the reverse (there are some earlier exceptions though).

eurocoin





Well known American coin designer Chris Costello submitted these designs for the public design competition of the new 1 pound coin. The left design depicts typical British symbols, the design to the right depicts the UK's contributions to the world: British popular music and culture, The Industrial Revolution, Fine Literature, and the Royalty Family in the center. Although not successful, his attempt has gotten him into talks with The Royal Mint and he is currently working on a still secret project for them.




augsburger

It'd be nice to see other designs that were submitted. I was really disappointed with the design they chose.

I think I had a design similar to the first one, the second one is kind of bizarre. A guitar, cogs and a quill..... as if the UK has only done three things ever.....


eurocoin

The mint so far refuses to provide copies of the other designs although I did see another one of the 7 designs that were shortlisted for the new 1 pound coin. It only had the lettering "I AM £1"  ::)

You can see a design submitted by coin designer Michael Guilfoyle here.

malj1

Quote from: augsburger on March 26, 2018, 04:53:02 PM

...the second one is kind of bizarre. A guitar, cogs and a quill..... as if the UK has only done three things ever.....

...and shows the wrong crown for Elizabeth II  :o
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

eurocoin

At long last I got my hands on the new pound coins, 20 pieces to be precise. I was impressed with the quality, only very very small die breaks on a few of hem. Unfortuately no 'lefty' coins nor mule errors in the lot. It is only now I have finally had the pieces in hand that I realize how incredibly small that micro lettering is. The designers initials of Clark are too small in my opinion.

I was told that shops are flooded with new 1 pound coins and this seems to be right. 18 pounds change from a transaction was paid out in 18 1 pound coins. Also of interest I found the fact that my family members never found a 2 pounds coin in circulation during their trips over the last couple of years but did receive at least 4 - 1 penny coins.

Alan71

£18 change given in £1 coins?  That's a bit excessive!  I could understand a £10 note and eight coins, though £5 notes seem more plentiful since the polymer ones came in.  Some cash machines (ATMs) now issue fivers.  £2 coins are much less likely to be given in change.  I have had a few recently but they are all older ones.  Newer-issue £2 coins seem to be scarce (but, apart from the £1, newer coins are scarce generally).

Even the cupro-nickel recovery programme appears to have stopped.  At one point the vast majority of 5p and 10p coins given in change were the steel ones (often dated 2013 or later).  Nowadays I'm getting more of the older cupro-nickel ones.

eurocoin

According to BBC Wales, 169 million round pound coins have not yet been returned. Approximately 138 million round pound coins of the total of 1.5 billion that were returned were melted down and the alloys used to make the 12-sided counterpart.

augsburger

I found four of them in my bunch of English coins in China the other week.