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Offline Figleaf

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German tram tokens
« on: March 03, 2014, 01:26:40 PM »
The company was established in 1911. The tokens were probably used in the period 1916-1922. In spite of the name Hochbahn (elevated railway), the company operated Hamburger public transportation above, on and underground. The company still exists.

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« Last Edit: March 03, 2014, 06:11:34 PM by Figleaf »
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Re: German tram tokens
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2014, 06:13:39 PM »
This token is minimum 21.2 mm. Both sides are the same. The Hildesheim trams ran from 1905 to 1945.

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Re: German tram tokens
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2014, 09:34:34 PM »
Hamburg:
Menzel (1993) #5731.1
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22,5 mm

Hildesheim:
Menzel (1993) #6374.7
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medal rotation (exists also in coin rotation!)

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Re: German tram tokens
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2014, 10:04:02 PM »
The company was established in 1911. The tokens were probably used in the period 1916-1922. In spite of the name Hochbahn (elevated railway), the company operated Hamburger public transportation above, on and underground. The company still exists.

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Listed in Smith & Smith # 390AP and gives date of use both 20 and 30 as Jan.25.1921 to Oct.31.1922
« Last Edit: March 04, 2014, 10:46:31 PM by malj1 »
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Re: German tram tokens
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2014, 11:42:00 PM »
Regarding to the piece from Hamburg: I am pretty sure obverse and reverse have different designers. The swan on the obverse looks a little bit like a children's sketch, the 2 of the reverse looks very elegant (Jugendstil/Art Deco) not only mirroring the swan motive, but surpassing it.

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Re: German tram tokens
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2014, 01:48:18 AM »
It is not unlikely that the side with 20 came from one of the manufacturers stock die or one that was used on earlier series for the same client, while the "logo" came from a company seal, designed by someone in the Hamburger Hochbahn company.

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Re: German tram tokens
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2014, 12:02:17 PM »
Here is another one from Hamburg - 30 Pf, hexagonal. (Link from a shop site.) The stylized swan - referring to the famous Alster river swans - was the logo of the HHA between 1912 and 1925 from what I have read ...

Also, according to this page (hope the long link works), the two were in use between 25 Jan 1921 and 31 Oct 1922.

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Re: German tram tokens
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2014, 12:25:08 PM »
Also, according to this page (hope the long link works), the two were in use between 25 Jan 1921 and 31 Oct 1922.
That's exactly, what Mal said above ...  :-\

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Re: German tram tokens
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2014, 12:32:24 PM »
Sure, but the Google Books link points at a different book, I think, and has a few images ...

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Re: German tram tokens
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2015, 12:17:11 AM »
Halle, 20 pfennig 1919-1922. The 20 pfennig tariff was introduced in 1919. It fell into disuse in 1922, due to hyperinflation. Halle (Saale) is a town in Sachsen-Anhalt. Its arms are the star-moon-star constellation seen in the centre of the token. The material of the token seems somewhere between wood and carton.

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Re: German tram tokens
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2017, 11:34:51 PM »
Great to find this thread! I just bought the 10 pfennig variant of the Halle tramway tokens, because of the nice art deco design of the number 10, and because of the material, that I think has to be called pasteboard. It's not wood, but a stiff and unbendable form of pressed board.
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