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Not only they have not been discontinued, they have been redesigned now.

http://www.nbp.gov.pl/homen.aspx?f=/en/banknoty/monety.htm#e2014

Which could mean we can expect new 10,20 and 50 groszy to be released later this year, but it's just my speculation of course.
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Re: Poland: New 1,2 and 5 grosz have been put into circulation
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2014, 11:18:46 AM »
Thanks for the info! The NBP has also issued a info sheet in English (PDF) about the new coins:
http://www.nbp.gov.pl/banknoty_i_monety/monety_obiegowe/new_coins_1-5_grosz.pdf

Note the tiny cross next to the eagle's feet (or whatever the lower ends of a bird are called :) )? Apparently the pieces have been minted in Llantrisant ...

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Re: Poland: New 1,2 and 5 grosz have been put into circulation
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2014, 01:11:23 PM »
The old coins were in "steel bronze".  The new coins are made of brass-plated steel. Otherwise the edge, size and weight are the same - except that the new 5 grosz is 19.48mm in diameter, compared to 19.5mm for the old - a minuscule difference.

Below you can see the old and new designs.

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Re: Poland: New 1,2 and 5 grosz have been put into circulation
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2014, 01:51:40 PM »
Not much of a difference, design wise. :)  But I still wonder why these have been minted in the UK. After all, the mint in Warsaw makes coins for many other countries as well. Is it less expensive to have these (low denomination) coins produced in Wales, and then ship them to Poland?

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Re: Poland: New 1,2 and 5 grosz have been put into circulation
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2014, 02:17:56 PM »
Letter facing in or letters facing out...not sure I have a preference but it looks pretty good...all of them.

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Re: Poland: New 1,2 and 5 grosz have been put into circulation
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2014, 04:29:09 PM »
Maybe more Polish people work at the Welsh mint than the Warsaw mint.  ;D

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Re: Poland: New 1,2 and 5 grosz have been put into circulation
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2014, 06:14:46 PM »
Yes, may well be so. ;)  Judging from those images, by the way, it seems that the five leaves (on the 5 gr coin) have become two only. Then again, I looked at the "old design" piece I have, and with that the five are hard to keep apart anyway ...

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Re: Poland: New 1,2 and 5 grosz have been put into circulation
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2014, 06:56:13 PM »
But I still wonder why these have been minted in the UK. After all, the mint in Warsaw makes coins for many other countries as well.
Christian

Perhaps, Warsaw mint does not have know how to make plated steel blanks.
In addition, due reasons of packing and unpacking, Royal mint may perhaps have quoted same price for blanks and struck coins.

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Re: Poland: New 1,2 and 5 grosz have been put into circulation
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2014, 07:40:55 PM »
I did read, not many years ago, that the Royal Mint had upgraded its electro-plating facilities.

Strange that the Polish website described the earlier coins as being "steel bronze". Numista.com lists them as "manganic brass", but when I Google that, manganese bronze comes up instead.

As for the designs, yes, they have merely been amended rather than changed, but they are rather timid and old-fashioned designs, IMO.

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Re: Poland: New 1,2 and 5 grosz have been put into circulation
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2014, 10:39:57 PM »
Well, I poked around in various forums, and came across this:
http://nbp.pl/home.aspx?f=/aktualnosci/wiadomosci_2013/2013_10_31_komunikat.html

Seems there was a semi-open tender. The central bank (NBP) "invited four mints that submitted offers":
* Royal Mint (UK), 54 035 230 zł (coins from steel coated with a single layer);
* Mint of Finland (FI), 55 114 130 zł (coins from steel coated with two layers);
* Mint of Poland (PL), 61 355 870 zł (coins from steel coated with two layers), and 64 999 900 zł (coins from steel coated with a single layer);
* Royal Canadian Mint (CA), 99 830 000 zł (coins from steel coated with a single layer).

Unfortunately that information is not available in English (as far as I can tell). So either you understand Polish, or you try a translation tool. Guess how I got the info above ;)

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Re: Poland: New 1,2 and 5 grosz have been put into circulation
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2014, 06:05:43 AM »
Poland mint quoted lower for two layer as compared to single layer plated coins.
I always thought, putting second layer was additional work and hence added to the cost.
Can some one explain the reasons?

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Re: Poland: New 1,2 and 5 grosz have been put into circulation
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2014, 10:25:50 AM »
Apparently the announcement by NBP was premature.
I Grosze of 2014 still remains with old design on obverse, perhaps minted at Warsaw mint only.


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Re: Poland: New 1,2 and 5 grosz have been put into circulation
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2014, 12:03:36 PM »
Interesting. I'll ask my Polish friend he didn't have clue in December.

P.S. It seems that both exist in 2014.

Check out on ebay, for instance item# 151293749567

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Re: Poland: New 1,2 and 5 grosz have been put into circulation
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2014, 09:32:57 AM »
I checked up with Polish sources.
No plated coins of 2013 were released.
For 2014, 1 gr is available in both versions.
For 2014, 2 gr is old brass version only.
5, 10, 20 and 50 gr for 2014 are yet to be issued.
For 5 gr, Royal mint will be the source.
For others, nickel plated steel will be issued from Warsaw mint.

1, 2 and 5 Zl are still with old specs.
Please let me know, if any more info is available.

Poland appears to follow many other nations in going in for plated coinage.

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Re: Poland: New 1,2 and 5 grosz have been put into circulation 2014
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2017, 12:42:51 PM »
The 10, 20 and 50 groszy and 1 zloty coins will be issued in 2017 with the updated obverse too. Material is still copper nickel and not nickel plated steel. Also the 1, 2 and 5 groszy coins will be minted in Poland instead of the UK from now on.