Author Topic: Rupee of Shah Jahan, AH1058 (RY 21): w/die-sinker, daroga or gov. mark  (Read 2952 times)

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A new coin I found today. Please help identify. I notice holes in the silver coins. I am sure these are not supposed to be mint marks.

Mahesh
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Re: Another silver coin
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2008, 09:51:44 AM »
This is also a Rupee of Shah Jahan, dated AH1058 (RY 21). The mint is off the flan.

The second image is the obverse showing the Kalima.
The reverse shows the emperor's name and titles
Shah Jahan Badshah Ghazi (Shah Jahan, emperor, one who fight against infidels).



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Re: Another silver coin
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2008, 09:57:18 AM »
...and the holes are the Shroff marks, made by money testers (Shroffs) to ascertain that the core of the coin was indeed silver.

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Re: Another silver coin
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2008, 02:17:22 PM »
Did you observe the Ain in the bottom right corner of the side with the Kalima?
Rarely these single letters are found, which may indicate the name of a die-sinker, the daroga of the mint or a local governor. No study has been made sofar regarding these rare single marks.

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Re: Another silver coin
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2008, 03:18:36 PM »
Wow, that's very interesting Oesho. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll keep an eye out for such marks in future. Have such marks been observed only on Shah Jahan's coins or on those of other Mughal emperors as well?
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Re: Another silver coin
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2008, 07:41:34 PM »
Thanks everyone. Your effort is much appreciated. Wish I knew how to read Persian and Arabic.
Mahesh

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Re: Another silver coin
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2008, 11:04:28 PM »
Wow, that's very interesting Oesho. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll keep an eye out for such marks in future. Have such marks been observed only on Shah Jahan's coins or on those of other Mughal emperors as well?
It's always worth to look for odd details on Mughal coins. On the coins of Akbar of Bairata mint (generally listed as Berar mint) you find Ram in Persian symbols, or a bird.
The coin shown above is probably of Akbarnagar mint. The coins of this mint show different symbols, but it is the first time I have observed the symbol Ain. I remember having seen another letter, but I can't, unfortunately, recollect where.

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Re: Another silver coin
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2008, 11:11:16 PM »
Thanks everyone. Your effort is much appreciated. Wish I knew how to read Persian and Arabic.
Mahesh
I still remember my first English lesson, it was as follows: Try and try again boy, gazing at the sky. How can you get up boy, if you never try. The same applies to learn any another language or script. Try it and you will succeed.

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Re: Another silver coin
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2008, 05:04:19 AM »
Thanks Oesho. Very well said. I certainly will try.

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Re: Another silver coin
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2008, 01:03:01 AM »
Wish I knew how to read Persian and Arabic.

I can recommend Arabic coins and how to read them by Richard Plant. It's hard to find, but a great introduction for coin collectors. Amazon UK has a few second hand copies.

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Re: Rupee of Shah Jahan, AH1058 (RY 21): w/die-sinker, daroga or gov. mark
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2008, 04:18:33 AM »
You could also try out A Manual of Musalman Numismatics by Oliver Codrington. The book is now in Public Domain and can be downloaded at  http://www.archive.org/details/amanualmusalman00codrgoog

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Re: Rupee of Shah Jahan, AH1058 (RY 21): w/die-sinker, daroga or gov. mark
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2008, 06:13:21 AM »
Thanks, I found both the books on net. Time to start studying.