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Offline Rangnath

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Alexandrian imitation copper
« on: December 31, 2008, 05:16:43 PM »
I don't know anything about this coin.  Could be an eagle, could be a turkey.
Anyone know?
I thought the reverse might be a buffalo with Native American..

richie
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Re: Copper Coin with Bird: Where is it from?
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2008, 05:44:19 PM »
I think the bird is an eagle and since I see Greek letters, I suspect your coin is Roman. Unfortunately, I do not have docs on this period, but I am sure sminnoch knows more about this coin.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Re: Copper Coin with Bird: Where is it from?
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2008, 07:49:46 PM »
The letters around the bird seem to read ALEXANDROU, so my take is that it's a late Ptolemaic Egyptian piece of Alexandria, and that the bird is an eagle.




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Re: Copper Coin with Bird: Where is it from?
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2008, 07:53:08 PM »
Rotate the other side about 90 deg. counterclockwise and you'll see a bearded male head facing right.  I don't know if it's the Zeus head that you see on the really big Ptolemaic pieces, or whether it might actually be an imperial head, e.g. Hadrian, in which case it would obviously be Roman provincial as Peter suggested.


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Re: Copper Coin with Bird: Where is it from?
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2008, 09:07:37 PM »
Thanks Peter and Martin. 
I did as Martin suggested and, yes, I can see what you mean. 

I tried looking for a similar coin. The one I'm posting is as close as I could get.  It was described on the web as a Ptolemaic Counterfeit coin from 285 to 246 BC.

richie
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Re: Copper Coin with Bird: Where is it from?
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2008, 09:34:28 PM »
It does seem to be a cast fake, whether modern or otherwise I couldn't say.

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Re: Copper Coin with Bird: Where is it from?
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2008, 09:44:52 PM »
Sminnoch, are you suggesting that because of the appearance of a rim?  Yes, now that I look at it, that bothers me also.

Here's another image of a coin labeled:  Ptolemaic Kings of Egypt

Ptolemy II Philadelphos (285-246 B.C.) Bronze  Weight 5.4g. Diameter 18 mm.

Obverse: Diademed and horned bust of Ptolemy I Soter as Zeus Ammon right. Reverse: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ
ΠΤΟΛΕΜΑΙΟΥ, eagle standing left on thunderbolt.  Nice brick-red patina.
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Re: Copper Coin with Bird: Where is it from?
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2008, 09:48:24 PM »
No, I am suggesting it because of the bubbles and the extreme softness of the details.

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Re: Copper Coin with Bird: Where is it from?
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2008, 09:52:00 PM »
I see what you mean Steve.  Its true that the softness of the details seems a bit different from other Ptolemaic coins I just accessed. 
richie