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Indo-Dutch: Copper Coins
« on: December 28, 2013, 09:39:42 AM »
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Indo-Dutch, Copper, Obv VOC  1734, Rev Crown and Lion

Indo-Dutch, Copper, Obv VOC  1765, Rev Crown and Lion

Indo-Dutch, Copper, Obv VOC  1786, Rev Crown and Lion

Indo-Dutch, Copper, Obv VOC 1786, Rev Crown and Lion
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Re: Indo-Dutch: Copper Coins
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2013, 10:51:07 AM »
The arms are from top to bottom Holland, West Friesland (part of Holland, but a different mint), Zeeland and Utrecht. The duit coins you show are not Indo-Dutch. They are generic coins of the United East India company (VOC), used in all their possessions in West Africa, the Cape, India, Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Taiwan and Indonesia. They were supplemented by locally struck coins, illegal in  law, but necessary in fact, as the VOC saw the coins as a cost item and was always shipping too few of them.

The deal the company had with the Dutch federal government (Staten Generaal) was that they could issue copper and silver coins that could be issued in their possessions, provided they were struck in Dutch mints and different from homeland coins by the addition of the VOC bale mark. They were forbidden to circulate in the Republic, but some seem to have done so anyway. The tariff of the silver coins invited re-melting, so they are now hard to find. The copper is easy.

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Re: Indo-Dutch: Copper Coins
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2013, 11:06:04 AM »
Chee, thanks a lot Peter for this valuable info. Were there any distinguishing mint marks or symbol that differentiated coins from one country/territory to another or were these uniform issues across all the countries you mention in your post below? In India, these coins are usually categorized/classified as "Indo-Dutch" series.

Any idea what the denomination on these copper coins is called?
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Re: Indo-Dutch: Copper Coins
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2013, 11:42:12 AM »
The nomination of these is "Duit", plural "Duiten". also somewhat larger dubbele-duiten (double duit) exist.

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Re: Indo-Dutch: Copper Coins
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2013, 01:01:13 PM »
Thanks Anthony.
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Re: Indo-Dutch: Copper Coins
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2013, 01:44:38 PM »
There are no distinguishing marks on the coins. You will find exactly the same coins e.g. in Saran Singh's book on Malaysian coins and in Scholten's book on Netherlands East Indies coins. Anthony is right that a double duit exists. However it was issued only in the Netherlands East Indies as part of the transition of the area to decimal coins when the VOC had already ceased to exist. There are half duit coins. These are more difficult to find, but generally not scarce.

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Re: Indo-Dutch: Copper Coins
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2013, 01:45:57 PM »
Thanks Peter.
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Re: Indo-Dutch: Copper Coins
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2013, 03:42:22 PM »
Much clearer now having read the Wiki stub here.
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