Help attribute Mughal coins

Started by KennyisaG, October 21, 2013, 08:50:00 AM

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akona20

Please note that our books have a coin coding system for the total Indian work but also a catalogue system suggested by Steve Album for use in auctions.

The total coding system is rather complex but the Steve's recommended system is simple and straight forward. Why the two? Well the main one is for the integrated project across the ages.

asm

Quote from: KennyisaG on October 23, 2013, 04:39:52 AM
If the Zeno #s organize coins by type, and similarly yet different to World Coins, there is a very good chance we will use them on Numista.
Unfortunately Zeno is just a database where you come across various types but there is no individual coding system there. They use KM# references and some times list a coin with KM#XXXXX(Var) to show that it is a variation.

Amit
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Coinsforever

Quote from: akona20 on October 23, 2013, 05:09:50 AM
Please note that our books have a coin coding system for the total Indian work but also a catalogue system suggested by Steve Album for use in auctions.

The total coding system is rather complex but the Steve's recommended system is simple and straight forward. Why the two? Well the main one is for the integrated project across the ages.

Dear Akona20 ,

Please elaborate more about coding system may be through PM  considering confidentiality and copy right issues.

Cheers ;D
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PeaceBD

Hi KennysiaG , all the coins you posted except the Akbar's Mohur from Ahmedabad were a part of  Sunshine Collection of Islamic Coins. You should be able to find some more info on these http://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=594&category=13287&page=5

coincoin13

Hi Kenny,

Attributing and cataloging Mughal coins may seem a daunting task however Zeno.ru is by far the best website that can be used to catalog  and learn about Indian coins.
The basics of Mughal numismatics are very straighforward- Name of the ruler, Regnal Year, Hijri Year, Ilahi Month, Mint.
One needs to make a conscious effort to recognize there on a coin, then come a few words/phrases that are most commonly found in Mughal coins- like Zarb, Allahu Akbar, Badsha, Ghazi, Shah, The Kalima, Ilahi months etc.
Than one could learn the names of the four chalips on the coins, titles like the Sahib-i - qiran and so on.
(Found on the margins of the coins of Shah Jahan - Kalima in square - names of Calips on the four margins - Obverse)
So essentially Mughal numismatics requires a collector to make an effort to first learn the few basics enumerated above, before she/he can/should start making sense of the coins at hand. One of the easier series is the Ilahi month series that is very commonly collected in Akbar and Jahangir, numerous mints Tatta, Delhi, Lahore, Ahmedabad have issued these, you will learn about the 12 different months, the word Zarb , Illahi, Mah, Allahu- Akbar when starting on these coins.

Unfortunately, it is impossible to build a catalog of any substantial use for a novice collector on Mughal coins  unless an effort is made by the collector to learn how to recognize the different persian words  on the coins.

In closing, I will like to mention zeno.ru again as it is by far the most sensible collection of Mughal coins on the internet. It can be use to self-tutor on any Indian coin series. Also, Mughal/Sultanate numismatics is very different from Modern coins.

Thanks,

Madhav



Coinsforever

Quote from: coincoin13 on November 07, 2013, 09:22:06 PM
Hi Kenny,

Attributing and cataloging Mughal coins may seem a daunting task however Zeno.ru is by far the best website that can be used to catalog  and learn about Indian coins.
The basics of Mughal numismatics are very straighforward- Name of the ruler, Regnal Year, Hijri Year, Ilahi Month, Mint.
One needs to make a conscious effort to recognize there on a coin, then come a few words/phrases that are most commonly found in Mughal coins- like Zarb, Allahu Akbar, Badsha, Ghazi, Shah, The Kalima, Ilahi months etc.
Than one could learn the names of the four chalips on the coins, titles like the Sahib-i - qiran and so on.
(Found on the margins of the coins of Shah Jahan - Kalima in square - names of Calips on the four margins - Obverse)
So essentially Mughal numismatics requires a collector to make an effort to first learn the few basics enumerated above, before she/he can/should start making sense of the coins at hand. One of the easier series is the Ilahi month series that is very commonly collected in Akbar and Jahangir, numerous mints Tatta, Delhi, Lahore, Ahmedabad have issued these, you will learn about the 12 different months, the word Zarb , Illahi, Mah, Allahu- Akbar when starting on these coins.

Unfortunately, it is impossible to build a catalog of any substantial use for a novice collector on Mughal coins  unless an effort is made by the collector to learn how to recognize the different persian words  on the coins.

In closing, I will like to mention zeno.ru again as it is by far the most sensible collection of Mughal coins on the internet. It can be use to self-tutor on any Indian coin series. Also, Mughal/Sultanate numismatics is very different from Modern coins.

Thanks,

Madhav

Hi Madhav,

Your observation is absolutely correct about zeno ,  However we at WOC  have privilege and lucky enough to have visiting & active scholar who has founded mughal section at zeno.

Welcome aboard.

Cheers ;D
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coincoin13

Thanks Aan09 and paisapagal,

Zeno is such a great website, the maru website is also great in terms of the detailed categroies that they have created but Zeno is by far the best.
Are you referring to Oesho?
He is legendary, I recently read a few of him papers, so well written.