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I've seen this before - Lion
« on: October 20, 2013, 12:07:32 PM »
I think Africancoins posted one of these a while back - not that I can find it  :-\
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Re: I've seen this before
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2013, 01:09:32 PM »
Issuer unknown. Catalogued in Machine Tokens simply as "Lion ?" Hayes # 237.1 I have two of these that bear additional counter-stamps. Another Hayes # 237. has 6 on the reverse.

Note the lion is also holding a "2/6 coin" while the latter 6 has a "6 coin".
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Re: I've seen this before - Lion
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2013, 06:57:39 AM »
This piece Hayes 237. has been revalued to 10p by a counter-mark after the introduction of decimal currency.
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Re: I've seen this before - Lion
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2013, 07:12:57 AM »
This piece, Hayes # 237.1 is counter-marked 1100 this could refer to the serial number of the machine with which it was supplied.
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Re: I've seen this before - Lion
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2013, 08:54:46 AM »
There seems to be some kind of logo below the lion's hind legs on the "1100" piece. It's not on the other tokens…

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Re: I've seen this before - Lion
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2013, 09:04:43 AM »
I took that mark to be the reverse of the 1100 impression combined with whatever was used on the workbench as an anvil at the time. The 6/10p is also disfigured in the same region.
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Re: I've seen this before - Lion
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2013, 02:16:38 PM »
Not the Gainesmead group then?
Well it's sort of similar  ::)
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Re: I've seen this before - Lion
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2013, 02:17:37 PM »
As for lions, here's another.
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Re: I've seen this before - Lion
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2013, 10:03:33 PM »
I too have wondered about the Gainesmead Group, the lion though is different, the tail being less ornate. The second piece you show [that is new to me] is plainer again.
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Re: I've seen this before - Lion
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2013, 10:07:03 PM »
Back to the lion of 2 shillings and 6 Pence....  I am fairly sure I have a normal one somewhere...  But of a bit more interest this one is stamped on the reverse with what must be a two line logo to say "STIRLING MECCA" - this logo is a bit weak in places. This combination of "lion" token and "MECCA STIRLING" stamp is listed as a type under issuer "MECCA LEISURE". One of the Aristocrat tokens is also known stamped with the "MECCA STIRLING" logo. (This must be Stirling in Scotland.)

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Re: I've seen this before - Lion
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2013, 03:14:24 AM »
I found that one listed as Hayes 262.12 [Mecca Leisure]  and another is listed at 262.10 painted 20 in red and the reverse has a similar countermark, but this time its BENWELL MECCA

A search for Benwell Mecca brings the result: Mecca Bingo East St, Gateshead. Mecca Bingo is a chain of bingo halls that also offer a range of refreshments. [Benwell appears to be the same area]

Not found in Stirling today, the nearest I found is Mecca Bingo at Dundee.

From a collection bought recently we have these uncirculated but tarnished specimens having been in storage for over 30 years. Two were donated to the collection by Gainesmead, others by Peter Simper and one from PRW
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Re: I've seen this before - Lion
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2015, 06:28:57 AM »
Discovered a new variety of the above 6 piece.

This new find has a much larger 6 but otherwise same measurements. I think perhaps the lion on the obverse is a tad bigger.
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Re: I've seen this before - Lion
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2015, 10:27:38 AM »
The Gainesmead lion's tail is quite different from the Benwell Mecca's tail. Useful.

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Re: I've seen this before - Lion
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2015, 01:59:10 PM »
While we are speaking of Mecca, this difficult to attribute one bears a large ornate M logo for Mecca consimilar Cu-ni 24mm

This has set me wondering could the lion be Mecca also? all the other Mecca tokens are also difficult to attribute apart from a 10p that bears another curious M logo that is used on several tokens but this10p also states Mecca - the only one to do this.
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Re: I've seen this before - Lion
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2015, 02:15:42 PM »
Here is the Mecca Leisure 10p referred to above, this M logo is used on several tokens but this is the only one that is named.

Brass 27.9mm
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