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5 Reichspfennig "G" Mint 1938 : Request for Expert Assist

Started by Dilip.Nair, July 22, 2013, 03:46:00 PM

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Dilip.Nair

Hi All,

I looking for expert advice on a Third Reich coin that I purchased recently from eBay. The reason I ask for your assistance is because the coin has an unusually high surface lustre. I have compared the metrics of the coin on this site against mine and I see some differences. I hear that there are a lot of Chinese imitiataions of Nazi coins these days that are almost undetectable, lazer cut and casted ones

I just want to know what is the acceptable standared deviation in weight, diameter and thickness for the coin in discussion. Below I present my Coin's Stats




* Deno : 5 Reichpfennig ( 0.05 Mark )
* Dated : 1938
* Color : Goldish - with very small green corrosion in corner ( I hear the alloy is bronze aluminium, but have no idea how that alloy corrodes )
* Weight : 2.52 g ( As aginst 2.53 g as quoted on this site)
* Dia : 19-20 mm ( As aginst 18 mm as quoted on this site)
* Thick : 1.1-1.2 mm ( As aginst 1.42 mm as quoted on this site)
* Edge : Vertical rims

PS : I know that these are cheap coin and commands no numismatic value, but still it is quite intolerable to be cheated from a site like eBay.

redwine

I'm no expert but I dived into my German box and the results are.....

GERMANY, THIRD REICH 5 Reichspfennig KM# 91 

1938 A 2.49g  Di:17.92mm Depth: 1.42mm
1938 F 2.51g  Di:17.98mm Depth: 1.43mm
1939 A 2.54g  Di:17.94mm Depth: 1.46mm

From Krause Weight: 2.4399g  Diameter: 18.1mm And it has a reeded edge. Does yours?

You'd be better off trading with someone on this forum.  Take it from somebody who has just bought a piece of lead advertised as silver on ebay!  ::)
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Figleaf

The weight and diameter wouldn't bother me. Can't see anything wrong with the design or the colour of the metal. That leaves only the edge. If it looks normal (vertical ribs, no seem), I think this coin is genuine. I'd be surprised if this one is faked anyway. With the same effort, you can fake a more expensive coin.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

redwine

I forgot to say it's medal aligned.
And perhaps their idea is to flood the market with these and then fake the 1936 series :o
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chrisild

Quote from: redwine on July 26, 2013, 12:40:37 PM
I forgot to say it's medal aligned.

That American term makes sense when it comes to US coins. It does not make any sense with regard to modern coins (this century) from pretty much every other country - and it does not make any sense either when referring to Deutsches Reich coins. ;)

Christian

redwine

Perhaps I should have said British Turnover ;D
However,  it's almost certainly a fake if it has medallic orientation.
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FosseWay

Quote from: redwine on July 26, 2013, 02:18:37 PM
However,  it's almost certainly a fake if it has medallic orientation.

???

AFAIK all standard (non-error) German coins issued by the Kaiserreich, Weimar Republic, Third Reich, Bundesrepublik and DDR have been medal alignment (or whatever you want to call it - both sides are the same way up). I've got something like 1800 German coins all told and all are such AFAIK...

redwine

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<k>

See the topic: Which Countries' Coins Are Contra-Aligned?

(↑↑)  British coins are 'parallel-aligned', or in parallel alignment.

(↑↓)  US coins are 'contra-aligned'.

Coins in parallel alignment work best in albums. Contra-aligned coins appear upside-down when you turn the page over.
Visit the website of The Royal Mint Museum.

See: The Royal Mint Museum.