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« Reply #60 on: November 10, 2013, 01:46:15 PM »
For circulating coins Germany isn't in much of a position to do so anyway. Whether collectors coins would be accepted by Germany who were the losers and the connotations with the rise of Hitler out of the ashes of WW1 is also another factor.

Nationalism and pride are big factors here. The British fascists like the BNP will pull out Churchill to back up their silly little ideas. WW1 though doesn't have that, we won, but not with pride so much as with relief, we won't because of the Americans and not because of our own exploits. So we don't have a sense of guilt, we don't have a sense of patriotism, it's just about remembering the dead.

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« Reply #61 on: November 10, 2013, 03:02:56 PM »
Would anyone support a coin commemorating the 10th anniversary of the Iraq war?
The subject is a little difficult, but no worse than what went on in 1914.
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« Reply #62 on: November 10, 2013, 05:03:04 PM »
I doubt a 10th anniversary would merit a coin, to be honest. We commemorate things in the long run, things that stand out. How will the Iraq war stand up in history? We don't know. Now it's right in our faces, but in 40 years time, what will it be? Will the Falklands War be remembered in 2082?
I doubt we'd have a coin for the Korean War, Vietnam, or other places we've had engagements, not because they're not valid, and not because people didn't die there, but because their importance to our identity is low.
Also, the Iraq war is seen as negative. WW2 is majorly positive, WW1 was see differently back then to how it is seen now.

It's not about the truth, per se. It's about identity and interpretation of history really.

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« Reply #63 on: November 10, 2013, 06:07:22 PM »
Interpretation of history indeed. You will be pleased to know that according to my son's (french) teacher the first world war was a war between France and Germany over Alsace-Lorraine. France won, so they got Alsace-Lorraine. You Brits weren't even there. :)

You may not be aware of the importance of the battle of Waterloo in the British psyche. There were times that anyone with at a minimum a large attic would have a scale model of the landscape, populated by tin soldiers, often homemade and painted in proper regimental uniform. My point is that what you remember is your grandfather's memories and what you learned in school, not history.

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« Reply #64 on: November 18, 2013, 08:22:15 PM »


100 years of World War I

Great Britain will issue a 2 Pounds coin.

Belgium will issue a 2 Euro coin.
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« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2013, 01:00:59 PM »
They should append coin design with legend after "Your country needs YOU" - to die needlessly and not long be remembered.
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« Reply #66 on: November 19, 2013, 05:01:17 PM »
The fact that they merely reproduce a war mobilization poster from 100 years ago says a lot in my opinion. But I assume that is the message they want to get across. :-\

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« Reply #67 on: November 19, 2013, 08:42:55 PM »
I think people should watch movie - Warhorse" which clearly documents enthusiasm which people went to war, then enthusiasm when after four years the war ends.
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« Reply #68 on: November 19, 2013, 09:11:43 PM »
Maybe the following coins (I think there will be five, one for each WW1 year) will reflect that ... But I doubt it.

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« Reply #69 on: November 19, 2013, 09:31:52 PM »
I think people should watch movie - Warhorse" which clearly documents enthusiasm which people went to war, then enthusiasm when after four years the war ends.

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« Reply #70 on: November 20, 2013, 12:37:31 AM »
1815, 1914 - it's about that time of the century that big changes occur. What could be in store: the next leg of the "never-ending recession" ? World War 3 ?

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« Reply #71 on: November 20, 2013, 05:20:15 PM »
Guess there will be twenty dull years after 2018, and then they can finally start with the WW2 series (at least seven coins) in 2039. Add the other Five Eyes countries, and you'll get a whole bunch of English language War coins. Plus a couple more from elsewhere ...

Christian >:D

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« Reply #72 on: January 17, 2014, 10:14:26 AM »
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« Reply #73 on: January 17, 2014, 10:43:12 AM »
Too busy, even for a large coin, but a better message than the UK variant.

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« Reply #74 on: January 17, 2014, 10:57:07 AM »
Is it? They're smiling, except the woman. Sort of suggests to me that men like going to war and find it fun. Okay, i don't, but any commemorative like this could be criticised.