East Prussia: 1 schilling 1795E

[FosseWay]

This really shouldn't defeat me, as it's not in bad condition from an identification perspective. But I've been through the German States section of KM several times, and the Austrian States and the Netherlands for good measure, and drawn a blank.

Thoughts?

Copper, 21.1 mm, 2.56 g

[andyg]

why did you not think to look for German States listed under Poland?

East Prussia, Schilling C#50


also - I see the East Prussian stuff before 1760 is still missing from the 5th ed.

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Same billon coin is listed under Prussia, KM 357. The mint is Königsberg in East Prussia (E), but type and legends are Prussian. Similar coins were struck at the Berlin mint.

Peter

[andyg]

Same coin - with same mintmark - in two places?
This a new one to the 5th ed (wasn't in my old 4th)

The below were missing from the 4th ed - I just found them under Prussia in my new 5th,
so I have to take back what I said in the previous post.

(any advice on how to stop the corrosion on these billon coins? - The second I take them out of oil, they start corroding again)

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any advice on how to stop the corrosion on these billon coins? - The second I take them out of oil, they start corroding again

Seal them with REN wax.

Peter

[FosseWay]

Aha, thank you. It is a source of intermittent irritation that KM insists on filing coins under the country currently occupying the territory where they were produced, even when that bears no cultural, political or historical relevance to the name, language and currency system exhibited on the coins. With clear succession from one state to another it is OK (e.g. Southern Rhodesia > Zimbabwe) but here it's just confusing. Königsberg was German-speaking and -cultured then; it makes sense to file coins produced there under German States. And in any case, Königsberg/Kaliningrad isn't in Poland, either.

[akona20]

Ummm before you seal them I suggest you check on the conservation page about neutralising anything that may be there. Time in distilled water and then a boiling in the correct solution then back in distilled water before drying and then Renwax.
Takes time but it generally works.

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My source of irritation are the superfluous subtitles that KM uses liberally, such as "regular coins", "standard coins", "general coins" and "republic", even when the whole chapter consists of one section and in countries where they never had irregular, non-standard and particular coins or countries that were always a republic. However, this nonsense doesn't kill, so blah!

Peter

[andyg]

Another question -
When did Brandenburg become Prussia?
My series of coins starts out Brandenburg, Then Prussia, Then East Prussia (under Poland) 

[andyg]

Ummm before you seal them I suggest you check on the conservation page about neutralising anything that may be there. Time in distilled water and then a boiling in the correct solution then back in distilled water before drying and then Renwax.
Takes time but it generally works.

thanks - will give it a try!

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Peter