Here COMETH and REMAINETH all the 1920 EIGHT ANNA FORGERIES

[cranko]

We will see loads of these 8 Anna fakes entering the market, more going forward, and there have been many for many years.

This coin/series will become more, and more sought after I suspect going forward as well. Meaning we will see more, and more forgeries offered if this is true.

Look at the bottom of the "2" on the reverse near the 7 o'clock position in the first link.

Use your imagination, and draw a square around the "2"-

The second link is the best indicator of the above "two", it should be almost a perfect cube somewhat, but it won't be.

In the first link, the "2" comes too much outside of the "2 square perspective" on the left side, and the 5 o'clock position on the right side it remains too much inside underneath the curve above.

Link one, the strike is weak, and i'm assuming that is the obvious give away, no toning, and why was this shot at an angle? I shoot coins at angles sometimes as well because of lighting. 

But if the seller looked at this site: http://georgevcoins.blogspot.com/ , and compared his example with the 1920 example all the way at the bottom of the page shown (scroll down)

They may think that the coin in hand was genuine as well, and the guy that owns the blogspot himself may not know the coin is a forgery that he is displaying as a "genuine" reference.

Not good for anybody, and especially new collectors- 

I'm sure there are more obvious aesthetic "giveaways", but the weight is about 7.7-7.8 grams, and again these are only aesthetics.

Anyways, take a look please below-

This is a blatant forgery I believe:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/India-1920-Bombay-8-Annas-George-V-RARE-/271066234096?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3f1cce7cf0&nma=true&si=boZrSNKyjr26ZiKHdJ3YqY7JO70%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Here is one I submitted for auction that is genuine, and if this link does not comply with forum rules please remove this thread only, but this serves a good purpose for illustration:

https://stacksbowers.com/Auctions/AuctionLot.aspx?LotID=422926

This is real I believe, I could be wrong, but the realist looking one from eBay recently:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/British-India-8-Annas-1920-King-George-V-Rare-/370697942133?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item564f51b475&nma=true&si=boZrSNKyjr26ZiKHdJ3YqY7JO70%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

This is the worst forgery I have seen, and it's in a yellow metal:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1920-EIGHT-ANNA-BRITISH-INDIA-VERY-RARE-COIN-8-ANNA-/271105293058?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3f1f227b02&nma=true&si=mBHzk5sD1zKLdSL0O7EiIuEpaOw%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Here is another really bad one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRITISH-INDIA-8-ANNAS-1920-ALMOST-AUNC-MOST-SCARCE-AND-RAREST-COIN-/271116352780?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3f1fcb3d0c

He doesn't stop with 1920, and keeps on scamming:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRITISH-INDIA-8-ANNAS-1919-ALMOST-AUNC-MOST-SCARCE-AND-RAREST-COIN-/271116346732?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3f1fcb256c[/size]

Regards,

Sanjay

[repindia]

Copying over the images for reference before eBay takes them down.

[repindia]

This is real I believe, I could be wrong, but the realist looking one from eBay recently:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/British-India-8-Annas-1920-King-George-V-Rare-/370697942133?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item564f51b475&nma=true&si=boZrSNKyjr26ZiKHdJ3YqY7JO70%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I believe this too is fake looking at the exaggerated serifs on the lettering on the obverse.

I find it hard to believe that people spend that much on such fakes. If you have enough money to burn please donate to a worthy cause rather than scums like the sellers of these.

I do not say this since I buy a lot of coins uncertified-- it is better to buy the high price rarer coins which are known to be forged certified and though a reliable dealer who would honor a return in case the coin turns out to be a fake. I had bought one 1920 8 annas from a reputable dealer (uncertified) for a good price when there were not many of them in the market. A year later I bought another nice example and them compared my first example with it and other 1919 8 annas and found it to be a well known fake! I let the dealer know if this and he gave me my money back and the coin too. I have kept it as a reminder to keep a look out on these.

Attached pictures are the fake ones.

[cranko]

That's a better fake than the other fakes!

[aarkay]

Hi...

The day is not far off, when there will be collectors specializing in collecting only fakes...since fakes are improving and becoming better than the originals ....

Aarkay

[cranko]

Very true-

Here is another fake:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1920-BRITISH-INDIA-8-ANNA-COPPER-NICKEL-COIN-OF-KING-GEORGE-V-VERY-LOW-MINTAGE-/230898556914?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item35c2a05ff2

[cranko]

I believe this too is fake looking at the exaggerated serifs on the lettering on the obverse.

I find it hard to believe that people spend that much on such fakes. If you have enough money to burn please donate to a worthy cause rather than scums like the sellers of these.

I do not say this since I buy a lot of coins uncertified-- it is better to buy the high price rarer coins which are known to be forged certified and though a reliable dealer who would honor a return in case the coin turns out to be a fake. I had bought one 1920 8 annas from a reputable dealer (uncertified) for a good price when there were not many of them in the market. A year later I bought another nice example and them compared my first example with it and other 1919 8 annas and found it to be a well known fake! I let the dealer know if this and he gave me my money back and the coin too. I have kept it as a reminder to keep a look out on these.

Attached pictures are the fake ones.

The coin in the second link is a forgery as well as repindia pointed out previously, and I am mistaken that it is genuine. 

[@josephjk]

I picked these 2 harshly cleaned coins at local shows in Texas as gap fillers. Are these genuine? Pardon the images - coins were still in their flips - thanks

[cranko]

I can't really tell but look for the "double rim" near the edges. Look at the photo in the Stack's link to compare these coins, and weigh them as well. Hope this helps. 

[@josephjk]

The rims check out OK and the diameters are correct at 26.02 mm and the coins are not magnetic. The weights are 7.6 gm (my scale only goes to one decimal so probably between 7.5 - 7.6gm). What is the spec weight for this coin? NGC does not specify...

http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/WorldCoinPrices.aspx?category=52900&worldcoinid=144055&FromSearch=true

[cranko]

Here is a quote from the beginning of the post: "I'm sure there are more obvious aesthetic "giveaways", but the weight is about 7.7-7.8 grams, and again these are only aesthetics". Kruase should have this weight listed in it's catalog, and I hope this helps.

[@josephjk]

Thanks cranko! Shoul have read the  thread with more attention to detail! . So 7.5 - 7.6 is about right for a coin with wear or my scales need calibration

[cranko]

You are welcome, and thanks for the question. I would submit the coin to NGC to be certain.

[zwiggy]

I picked these 2 harshly cleaned coins at local shows in Texas as gap fillers. Are these genuine? Pardon the images - coins were still in their flips - thanks

Nice find!!!. I haven't found decent Indian coins in Texas for years! They both look pretty good to me...

[cranko]

another forgery :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201154464010