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Savoy coin

Started by mkm1968, December 16, 2012, 04:18:06 PM

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mkm1968

Help to identify the rests of the given copper coin, the arms are visible well, and from a legend remain nothing. Probably something from the Italian cities?
22 mm, 1,8 grams

Andrey5

Duchy of Savoy, Charles Emmanuel I (1580-1630).
Compare http://www.mcsearch.info/record.html?id=381489
Not sure about the denomination, if is is copper.
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mkm1968

I too at first thought, that it is Savoy, but at me the arms are a little another: eagles and lions on a diagonal...

mkm1968

Still to see this coin whole with a full legend. I will be grateful for the reference.

Figleaf

I agree with Andrey. A billon soldo of Savoy, 16th or 17th century. Haven't found the same cross, though.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

mkm1968

Most likely copper. The coat of arms is similar to the coat of arms of Savoy, but I once again want to remind that on my coin eagles on a diagonal. In a field of the coat of arms myly coat of arms, probably Milan (cross).

Konstantin

Figleaf

They look like copper, because the little silver they contained was on the surface and is worn away. However, there is no such copper coin.

Look at this page, where they show five different pieces in detail (pictures can be enlarged. You can also match part of the word DOMINI on your coin. The heraldry is correct.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

mkm1968

Peter, on the presented site isn't present any couple of eagles. Besides, a quarter of the coat of arms where the eagle is located, at me shares on a straight line, and on all presented coins division on an arch. I think that if it is correct to define accessory of the coat of arms, and before identification of a coin remains slightly...

Andrey5

#8
In the earlier times of Emanuele Filiberto the lower right and upper left quarters were divided by arches.
This is a bit earlier coat of arms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Armoiries_Savoie_1563.svg
Try looking through different Soldos of Emanuele Filiberto
http://numismatica-italiana.lamoneta.it/moneta/W-EF/28
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mkm1968

Has tried to restore the arms, here that from this has turned out