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Offline Figleaf

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Re: Boordgeld or ship money
« Reply #45 on: July 24, 2019, 07:19:52 PM »
We can do much better than that. Our own catalogue is here and the discussion - with some great background research - is here. Enjoy.

Find more of our token catalogues here.

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Re: Boordgeld or ship money
« Reply #46 on: July 24, 2019, 07:29:09 PM »
Thank you, Peter ! Great photos and descriptions.

I actually would also like the Smith listing with catalog numbers if anyone can post it.

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Lou


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Re: Boordgeld or ship money
« Reply #47 on: July 24, 2019, 08:21:32 PM »
Well, after reading all of the excellent material and going to The Fare Box, I think I have the listings correct:

Thanks so much to Kushi and Malj1 for the helpful table listing from Bingen’s article.

From that article in The Fare Box March 1974, I expanded the posted table for myself, combining some of the text notes into the table:

20,000 5.00 F bi metal “ Smith 909 J
50,000 2.50 F. aluminium “ Smith 909 I
75,000 1.00 F. " Smith 909 H
50,000 .50 F. “ Smith 909 G
100,000   25 F. “ Smith 909 K (square)
44,000 .25 F. bronze Smith 909 F
190,000 .10 F. " Smith 909 E
170,000 .05 F. “Smith 909 D

I really appreciate everyone’s help !

If I can find a 50 token, I should have the whole set.

Best regards,

Lou

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Re: Boordgeld or ship money
« Reply #48 on: July 24, 2019, 09:29:32 PM »
Don't worry. The 50 is relatively easy. The ƒ5,- is the key of the series. The HAL  tokens are not too difficult either, but the Van Ommeren tokens are hard to get.

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Re: Boordgeld or ship money
« Reply #49 on: July 24, 2019, 09:41:28 PM »
Thank you, Peter.

Actually I just bought this 5F on eBay - about 12 USD with shipping.

Keep those comments and suggestions coming - much appreciated !!!

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Re: Boordgeld or ship money
« Reply #50 on: July 24, 2019, 10:28:58 PM »
USD 12 is OK. The problem isn't the price, but finding them, so get them while you can. There is not that much demand for them. Wrongly so. They are witnesses of the sort of history the Hitler channel doesn't cover and it's up to collectors like you to discover and preserve them.

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Re: Boordgeld or ship money
« Reply #51 on: July 24, 2019, 10:40:55 PM »
Thank you, Peter.

Exactly the way I feel. I have a strong interest in Bridge, Canal, ferry, and ship tokens and am trying to acquire some pieces of interest.

Another one I’m looking at is a United Steamship Co tokenon eBay for about 230USD.

I have thoroughly read Malcom’s post on it and am seriously considering it,however time and funds aren’t limitless.

I really like this forum and appreciate all the help I’m getting.

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Re: Boordgeld or ship money
« Reply #52 on: July 25, 2019, 12:06:55 AM »

Another one I’m looking at is a United Steamship Co token on eBay for about 230USD.

I have thoroughly read Malcolm’s post on it and am seriously considering it,however time and funds aren’t limitless.

These are also to be found on WoT here We perhaps need to add a little more information there.
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Re: Boordgeld or ship money
« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2019, 12:10:04 AM »
Much appreciated, Malcolm !

I’v learned a great deal from your posts.

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Re: Boordgeld or ship money
« Reply #54 on: July 30, 2019, 12:42:09 AM »
I just yesterday found this set of VanOmmeren tokens on eBay, so I bought them.

Strangely, no one has a complete set of H.A.L. Tokens.


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Re: Boordgeld or ship money
« Reply #55 on: July 30, 2019, 01:41:24 AM »

Strangely, no one has a complete set of H.A.L. Tokens.

?  I have a set at  Reply #31 plus another 10c.

I also saw another 10c on eBay today

They are all on WoT too.
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« Reply #56 on: July 30, 2019, 02:26:01 AM »
Thanks, Malcolm.

Yes, I meant that no one on eBay has a complete set for sale. I did see the two or three 10c ones.

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Re: Boordgeld or ship money
« Reply #57 on: August 08, 2019, 12:46:05 PM »
To my amazement I saw an advert on TV the other evening for the Holland America Line  :o

I managed to get a photo of the advert tonight, I had forgotten you can pause live TV these days!
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Re: Boordgeld or ship money
« Reply #58 on: August 08, 2019, 02:10:12 PM »
From WoT:

HAL experienced increasing competition from aviation. In response, the company changed its core business to tourist cruises, which is quintessentially a US activity. The company bought US travel company Westours Inc. Headquarters was moved to New York and the name was shortened to HAL in 1971. In 1975, the freight division was sold. In 1983, Headquarters moved to Seattle, into Westours' HQ.

HAL, now Holland America Line, was bought by Miami cruise company Carnival Corporation in 1989. The ships remain registered in Rotterdam. In 2007, HAL opened a European head office in Rotterdam.


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Re: Boordgeld or ship money
« Reply #59 on: August 08, 2019, 02:20:56 PM »
That leads us to: Carnival Cruise Line

Carnival Cruise Line is an international cruise line with headquarters in Doral, Florida. Its logo is the funnel like the funnels found on their ships, with red, white and blue colors. The funnels are shaped like a whale's tail. Wikipedia

Parent organization: Carnival Corporation & plc
Headquarters: Miami, Florida, United States
Number of employees: 3,900 - Shoreside; 33,500 - Shipboard
Founder: Ted Arison
Founded: 11 March 1972, Miami, Florida, United States
Subsidiaries: Costa Cruises, Holland America Line N.V., HAL Antillen N.V., Sunshine Shipping Corporation Ltd. ("Sunshine")

And from Numista one of their tokens.
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