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Glover & Burley
« on: October 26, 2012, 09:17:14 PM »
Not a good name for a pub (and the denomination is too high anyway) and Birmingham is no place to pick hop or fruit. A market token, maybe? It is brass, 5.5 grams and 25.4 - 27.2 mm.

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Re: Clover & Burley
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2012, 09:25:52 PM »
I believe it reads Glover, not Clover ?

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Re: Clover & Burley
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2012, 09:51:14 PM »
Yes - Glover and Burley.

There are some other Birmingham market tokens in a very similar style, but in the name of another company, that sometimes include a date from the 1940s such as "9/42" for September 1942.

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Re: Glover & Burley
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2012, 09:52:45 PM »
Thank you, TH. Found it. Glover and Burley building is on 285 Lower Essex street, Digbeth. Looks like it used to be a small department store, style "Are you being served?". Proof of purchase for future discounts, I guess. Agreed, Paul. Somewhere between the 20's and 50's, I think.

Found an oval 3 shillings on the net.

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Re: Glover & Burley
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 10:06:58 PM »
Not Dept Store. Google books gives results from a long time ago all pointing to "market" and also "Fruit & Vegetable Merchants".... This from the days before supermarkets anything those like we have today. Some of these "market" companies would have been big business... The bigger predecessors of today wholesale fruit and vegetable merchants.

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Re: Glover & Burley
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2012, 10:13:21 PM »
Much appreciated, Paul. Must have been a pretty large covered market, judging from the building. Any idea of the token's use? Empty packaging, maybe?

Peter
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Re: Glover & Burley
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2012, 03:29:09 AM »
I have an oblong 5/- piece for Glover and Burley Ltd Birmingham and a earlier 1/6 from Walter Glover possibly he was a forerunner to the company.

MARKETS IN THE AREA

The open-air markets have been in this country, at least since Roman Times, Britain’s most durable trading institution.  Birmingham was given A Charter of Marketing Rights in 1166 when Henry II granted this to Peter de Bermingham.  Birmingham has been a marketing town now for over 800 years.

A change in control of the Marketing Rights took place in 1807, when the Town Governors, or, as they were then called, “The Commissioners of the Birmingham Street Act”, contracted for the market tolls.  In 1824 the Commissioners purchased outright from the then Lord of the Manor, Mr Christopher Musgrave, the marketing rights and tolls for the sum of £12,500, and these they controlled until 1851, when, by the Birmingham Improvement Act, the marketing rights and all the powers appertaining to them, together with the rights of the borough, were transferred to the Town Council, in whom they are now vested.  The markets have been greatly extended and improved from time to time.

Smithfield Market was built on this site.  It was constructed at a cost of £2,449, plus the cost of the land and premises which came to £3,223.  It was opened on Whitsun Fair Thursday, 29th May 1817.  The cattle market was previously held in Dale End, the pig market in New Street, the Hay and Straw market in Ann Street, (now known as Colmore Row).  All these markets were transferred to this new market when it opened.  The Hay Market was held on Tuesdays, and the Beast Market on Thursdays.  At the West side of the market was a weighing machine and office, for the purpose of weighing hay and cattle etc. There was a common pound and the Keeper’s House adjacent to the Market place.  The site was adjacent to Jamaica Row, Moat Row and Moat Lane.

A very busy area.  The original Rag Market was held here.  It opened at 1.00pm on Tuesday and Saturday.  The main gate was closed just prior to the opening and a large crowd would be waiting for it to open.  The bell went at 1.00pm and the porter shouted, “Wait for it”, and everyone rushed in.  It was a very popular and busy market area.  At No. 20 was Glover and Burley, at 18 James Baragwanath and Co., Ltd., and at 22-23 Francis Nicholls Ltd., just a few of the Fruit Salesmen in the area.  Period 1930’s


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Re: Glover & Burley
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2012, 08:52:05 AM »
Good reading, Malcolm. It explains a minor point, why cover a vegetable and fruits market? Answer: because there was a meat market also. The street looks a lot less attractive today; pretty desolate.

For the sake of completeness, here is my 3 shillings. Forgot I had it. ::)

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Re: Glover & Burley
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2012, 08:58:39 AM »
 Peter, ??? I see you appear to have chopped off a previous reply from me giving a link to the Wikimapia map of the area.  ???

Now reinstated here...

GLOVER & BURLEY were a company selling fruit, vegetables and greengrocery in Birmingham Market.  The Glover & Burley Building is located directly opposite to the Birmingham market.
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Re: Glover & Burley
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2012, 09:14:59 AM »
It is here.

Peter
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