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Offline rja

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Unidentified Akbar Dam
« on: October 26, 2012, 08:01:22 AM »
Can someone help me with the mint?

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Re: Unidentified Akbar Dam
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2012, 09:16:28 AM »
Did you see this? Is it the first time ever that I've seen such a symbol on Akbar Dams.

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Re: Unidentified Akbar Dam
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2012, 09:19:23 AM »
Umm rather early for that and two it is a flower of some sort, perhaps someone could lighten the image for me.

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Re: Unidentified Akbar Dam
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2012, 09:26:44 AM »
Umm rather early for that and two it is a flower of some sort,
To me it sure looks like a Katar.........

perhaps someone could lighten the image for me.
Done.........

Amit
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Re: Unidentified Akbar Dam
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 09:30:42 AM »
rja,

Can you post larger, higher resolution pictures by embedding them? This coin sure is interesting. If you are unable to do so, just PM me and I will give you my email id. If you send the image to me, I will gladly do that.

Amit
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Re: Unidentified Akbar Dam
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2012, 09:31:40 AM »
Oh dear Amit we know about these discussions. No closed circle so therefore I must doubt it.

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Re: Unidentified Akbar Dam
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2012, 09:50:48 AM »
Dear Arthur,

This is what I see...........

Amit
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Re: Unidentified Akbar Dam
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2012, 08:47:53 PM »
FWIW, I see the katar. Doesn't look like a counterstamp.

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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2012, 09:59:22 PM »
I see something, but I see no Khatar. Even a fairly recently written paper on the so called evolution of the Khatar to try to prove something else did not have anything like this drawn to show anything.

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Re: Unidentified Akbar Dam
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2012, 12:06:58 AM »
It's definitely a katar, which is depicted on the reverse of this Dam.

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Re: Unidentified Akbar Dam
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2012, 01:26:52 AM »
Okay given the date let's discuss the significance.

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Re: Unidentified Akbar Dam
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2012, 06:00:15 AM »
Here are some additional pictures.

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Re: Unidentified Akbar Dam
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2012, 05:22:57 PM »
I join asm : I have never seen such a dam...may be the weight could be of some help : +/- 20g ?
if reverse could be read as "fi sanah nuhsad wa (ha)shtad ?" (98x), the obverse seems (to me) without any signification with a curious script..
I wonder if a mirror image of this obverse doesn't give in center a word which looks like a degenerated word "falu(s)" ?

just a suggestion, as I am sure of nothing...
"All I know is that I know nothing" (Socrates)

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Re: Unidentified Akbar Dam
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2012, 05:35:53 PM »
I wonder if a mirror image of this obverse doesn't give in center a word which looks like a degenerated word "falu(s)" ?

just a suggestion, as I am sure of nothing...

If so, that would be an important hint. Amateur die cutters' most occurring mistake is forgetting to work in mirror image, which of course results in a mirror image on the coin. This is not the sort of error I have seen on mughal coins, except in dates and regnal years, typically the job of an apprentice die cutter.

Peter
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Re: Unidentified Akbar Dam
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2012, 06:22:00 PM »
The weight is 19.2 grams.