VICTORIA QUEEN : Continuous legend 1840 Obv : English Head.

Started by sekharkausik, October 14, 2012, 09:17:01 AM

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Figleaf

Looks perfectly good (as well as very nice indeed) to me. If someone claims it's a fake and doesn't bother to give arguments, he loses credibility.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

akona20

Maybe it is one of those mysterious off board discussions where things are siad to a select audiance often without foundation. However some here would like to understand why it has been suggested that it is a fake. I have a collection of pictures here from various collections that I need to look through with advice.

Harry

Quote from: Quant.Geek on October 19, 2012, 02:25:23 PM
These coins are absolutely stunning! The crisp and frosty portrait is really amazing. Have to upload mine as well. Thanks for sharing...

Thanks Ram, nice coin! Does it have any mint attribution marks on the truncation (obv) or on the ribbon (rev)?

I have a question that I hope someone can answer. I've never really been able to figure out the difference between the "Indian head" vs "English head".  In the Baldwin catalog Dr. Paul Stevens states "The distinction between 'Indian' and 'English' heads is not easy to see, with the shape of the nose probably being the best comparator (see pictures of obverse varieties)." See http://www.baldwin.co.uk/coins-of-india/VictoriaContinuous/CatVicContinuous_Rupee2.htm

I've looked at the pictures yet cannot distinguish between them  :(  Anyone care to illustrate the difference?
Collector of British India, Straits Settlements, Malaya, East Africa coins and papermoney

repindia

Quote from: Harry on October 20, 2012, 01:41:38 AM
I've looked at the pictures yet cannot distinguish between them  :(  Anyone care to illustrate the difference?

The queen looks visibly thinner in the Indian head -- look at the neck and the chin. The nose is more sharp in the Indian head version. Once you have both coins next to each other then the difference stands out.

akona20

If this cannot be satisfactorily answered I will ask Paul the question and post his remarks.

Posted after the question was answered.

Harry


@sekharkausik states that his coin is English Head. Does that mean my coin and Ram's coin are English head too? Or can you spot any difference between them?

Collector of British India, Straits Settlements, Malaya, East Africa coins and papermoney

Quant.Geek

My coin has 19 berries and Bombay mint...The  question now is what type of head does it have???  Just to make it more interesting here is an older one of my 1840 rupee.  I replaced this one with the one I posted earlier.  Same type 19 berries and Bombay mint.  Same head or different heads?




Ram
A gallery of my coins can been seen at FORVM Ancient Coins

The Oracle

Quote from: Quant.Geek on October 19, 2012, 05:20:28 PM
I am totally confused by that statement  ???


Ram

sigh.  you know how rolexs are not watches but statements? 

paisepagal

Quote from: The Oracle on October 20, 2012, 09:40:55 PM
sigh.  you know how rolexs are not watches but statements?

Lol, I don't think one would get a better compliment from the oracle than that . And I agree looking at ram's coin  :)

Prosit

As for portrait coins I think that is one of the most attractive there is and in a good state of preservation beautiful. I need to get one someday  :)

I understand on some of the higher British denominations there is some ornementation on the headbands? Is there any image of one on WoCs?

Dale
Dale

Quant.Geek

Quote from: The Oracle on October 20, 2012, 09:40:55 PM
sigh.  you know how rolexs are not watches but statements?

LOL..That is what I thought you meant, but my coin is not as great looking as the other two that was posted.  Figured it couldn't be that  :D.  Thanks for the complement...


Ram
A gallery of my coins can been seen at FORVM Ancient Coins

The Oracle

Quote from: Quant.Geek on October 21, 2012, 02:07:30 AM
LOL..That is what I thought you meant, but my coin is not as great looking as the other two that was posted.  Figured it couldn't be that  :D.  Thanks for the complement...


Ram

really?  if i could arrange for a coin that looked like one of the other 2 would you give me yours in exchange? 

Quant.Geek

Very interesting proposal..My coin has several abrasions and a few hairlines in it.  Whereas the other coins are problem free with the frosty image.  Why do you consider mine better than theirs?


Ram
A gallery of my coins can been seen at FORVM Ancient Coins

The Oracle

Quote from: Quant.Geek on October 21, 2012, 12:33:18 PM
Very interesting proposal..My coin has several abrasions and a few hairlines in it.  Whereas the other coins are problem free with the frosty image.  Why do you consider mine better than theirs?


Ram

what can i say i am just a beginner who doesnt know much.  so your coin with abrasions and hairlines will do nicely for me.   ;D

Figleaf

Quote from: Prosit on October 20, 2012, 10:01:40 PM
I understand on some of the higher British denominations there is some ornementation on the headbands? Is there any image of one on WoCs?

Maybe you are referring to the band that binds the twigs forming to wreath on the reverse? Her majesty couldn't bear so much as a dimple on the nose ;)

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.