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Darfur elephant
« on: September 16, 2012, 08:33:23 PM »
I don't know where to post this. 

Don't give me grief about collecting non-coins, I ain't no newbie I know what I am doing...wait..let me repharse that  ;D I know what I bought.  I like the design and it was cheap and I bought it.

250 Dinar 2008 Octagonal coin.  I should get it next week.

I started to put it in "Not used for payment"    ::)

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Re: Darfur elephant
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2012, 11:24:04 PM »
Nice "coin" from a troubled region , I have the square one from the same series , and yes i also know it is not a coin , but still wanted to have it

and the elephant looks nice

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Re: Darfur elephant
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2012, 11:50:32 PM »
The square one must be the cat.  I think they all look good and might get them all as I stumble across them. Not going searching for them or likely to buy the set outright.

I gave under $4 US for it.  In that price range there is no telling what I might decide to like  ;)
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Nice "coin" from a troubled region , I have the square one from the same series , and yes i also know it is not a coin , but still wanted to have it

and the elephant looks nice

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Re: Darfur elephant
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2012, 04:28:28 AM »
So who would be the Sultan of this Darfur Sultanate ?

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Re: Darfur elephant
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2012, 08:31:52 AM »
So who would be the Sultan of this Darfur Sultanate ?

Mister Lang , who else

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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2012, 08:35:39 AM »
Mister Lang , who else

LOL well said. ;D

Even the coin shows his name on it...(JL).. :D

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Re: Darfur elephant
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2012, 08:48:44 AM »
Mister Lang , who else

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Doh ! why didn't i think of that...excellent stuff  ::)

for those who may have had some fleeting interest... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_Darfur
Apparently, Ibrahim was the Last Sultan...though I cannot find any further information...or who might today claim that throne.

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Re: Darfur elephant
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2012, 11:25:15 PM »
Ibrahim Muhammad Hussein al-Mahdi (not the wellknown Mahdi who conquered Omdurman) was really the last sultan of Darfur. But in the end of the Sudanese Mahdi rebellion his grandson 'Ali Dinar came to power and gained some independance from the British. His first coins were copies of Egyptian coins in bad silver, some of them with local counterstamps of traders. In 1908 coins were made bearing the tughra of 'Ali Dinar, which show the mint name al-Fasher, the capital of Darfur. A piece of one half Piastre (AH 1328) exists. Standard coin was the Piastre, which copied the design of the Egypt Piastres of 1829 1834. The date is AH 1327/17 or 1327/71. 1327 was the really minting date. The 17 was the actual reign year of 'Ali Dinar. The 71 was known long time as a date error, but most probably was the actual reign date of his grandfather Ibrahim Muhammad Hussein al-Mahdi, the last sultan of the Darfur. There exist also scarce pieces of 5 Piastres in white metal (AH 1328), which are design copies of the Sudanese coins with an outer circle of crescents. During the 1st World War 'Ali Dinar made a rebellion against the British and was defeated on the 6th of November in 1916 near Zalingi and died in this battle. So the "very last" sultan of Darfur died also, until these new phantasies did occur ...  ;D

Here a piece of 1 Piastre 1327 / 71 showing the actual reign year of his grandfather. (In this quality RRR!)
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Re: Darfur elephant
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2012, 12:06:14 AM »
Nice information Afrasi

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Re: Darfur elephant
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2012, 12:46:00 AM »
And: Yes, I also have these pseudo coins in my collection. :-[
Perhaps they are more American coins, than African ones, but like Dale* would say it:
They are from Africa, they were cheap and I bought them. ;)
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Re: Darfur elephant
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2012, 05:27:14 AM »
Well said!  ;D
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And: Yes, I also have these pseudo coins in my collection. :-[
Perhaps they are more American coins, than African ones, but like Dale* would say it:
They are from Africa, they were cheap and I bought them. ;)

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Re: Darfur elephant
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2012, 07:32:21 AM »
...... So the "very last" sultan of Darfur died also, until these new phantasies did occur ...  ;D

much appreaciated!