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Shah Jahan, Dam. Mint: Daryakot. RY 23. KM# Unlisted.
« on: August 31, 2012, 12:03:40 PM »
Seems like a dam of Shah Jahan but I can go no further. Please help attribute.

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Re: Please help attribute.......RY 23?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2012, 02:43:44 PM »
Shah Jahan Daryakot
See fo a similar coin (there attributed to Ahmadabad?) Nagpur Museum Catalogue #964, Pl. XV.

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Re: Please help attribute.......RY 23?
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2012, 02:53:37 PM »
I have a bit of a problem with the date. The coins of Shah Jahan show the Ry.8.
The obv. legend differes a bit of the other coins of Shah Jahan of this mint.
Perhaps Jahangir Ry.23? This is not possible as Jahangir died in his 22nd regnal year. Perhaps AH1023? Pity the coin is so much worn to provide a good attribution.

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Re: Please help attribute.......RY 23?
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2012, 07:15:30 AM »
Thank you Oesho, 23 is sure. May be.....just may be there is a dot to the left of the S....but I could not be sure. I will try to scan with a high resolution and size........hope to see some thing I could not see with a magnifier.

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Re: Please help attribute.......RY 23?
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2012, 10:23:11 AM »
I think that the obverse, even worn, is well: "(falu)s Shah Jaha-ni.." with the ry. 23 in the sin of falus even if previous known coins were dated yr.8 /1045 AH. no doubt for me for attribution to Shah Jahan.
This coin is very interesting as it shows the right part of the mintname which was read "DaRYAhKuTI" (or zarb i-Daryahkot ?) : there is clearly a new letter "R" before the "D" which seems to belong to the mintname.
 
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Re: Please help attribute.......RY 23?
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2012, 11:22:27 AM »
I am uploading a larger image of the previous picture. I will rescan the image later this evening and post a blow up......



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Re: Please help attribute.......RY 23?
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2012, 06:53:43 AM »
With the coin in hand, Shah Jahan is very clear........ so no question of it being Jahangir.

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Re: Please help attribute.......RY 23?
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2012, 07:40:36 AM »
Coin weighs 20.63g

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Re: Shah Jahan, Dam. Mint: Daryakot. RY 23. KM# Unlisted.
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2012, 08:39:56 AM »
I am not sure how the mint name on this particular coin reads "Daryakot" at all. For comparison, I quote Oesho's informative reply and a portion of Saro's excellent illustration from this thread.

Oesho's reply:
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I failed to read the mint name and finally requested Shailendra Bhandare of the Ashmolean Museum at Oxford, whether he knew this type of coins. His reply was:

"The Shahjahan mint is 'Daryakot' which is apparently the same as Daryapur in Central Maharashtra although I am not too sure if this is the case. The full mint name starts with daal-re-ye (ends with a bent end = addition of 'a'), then kaaf-wav-ye-te, so the mint reads 'kw-yt' rather than '...kot' - but this is also seen on other coins where mintnames end in '...kot'. e.g. 'Bagalkot' is written 'Bagalkw-yt'. I have seen full and half fulus of Shahjahan of this mint. Coins of Jahangir are also known, of both 'Rawani' and 'Fulus-i-Jahangiri' types."

Saro's illustration:



To me, the characters on asm's coins don't seem to match the above.

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Re: Shah Jahan, Dam. Mint: Daryakot. RY 23. KM# Unlisted.
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2012, 04:00:26 PM »
Dear Overlord,
You are right for the reverse : the dam posted by asm shows the real beginning of the mintname which is to read, (refering to S. Bhandare) as :" DaLReYeKWYet".
What I took for "D" on my sketch is in fact the 2nd letter "L" of the mintname (which looks very like a "D"....)

The asm dam gives "DaLRYa...
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Re: Shah Jahan, Dam. Mint: Daryakot. RY 23. KM# Unlisted.
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2013, 11:19:01 AM »
I was just talking to a friend cum seller of Coins from whom I had very recently picked up the 4 Dams of Jahangir of this mint.. He casually mentioned that he had picked up these coins from a small village which was just 25 KM from the town of Galiyakot which is an important pilgrimage town for the Vora / Bohra Muslim community.

So could the reading be slightly off - especially in view of some discussions I had during the Delhi meet when I heard one of the experts say that Dharur and Dharwar are written exactly the same way in Persian.

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