1876 one rupee brass coin this is real coin???????

[ravibhatica]

1876 one rupee victoria empress???? any body have these type coin i think this is a fake ..... i think :-\ but i am not sure this coin made by brass but definitely its is not gold coin as per my knowledge "victoria empress" coin started in 1977 before 1977 all victoria coin have"victoria queen" so frnds what u say your opinion on this coin  :(
i attach image see and tell me

[Abhay]

Yes, you are correct. This is definitely a fake coin. Rupee coins were never minted in Brass.
You are correct is stating that the Victoria Empress coins started from 1877 till 1901.
Victoria Queen remained in circulation from 1862 to 1876.

Can you take the weight of the Coin? That should certainly help you to find out the genuineness of the coin.
A real and genuine coin should weigh around 11.664 grams.

Abhay

[Md. Shariful Islam]

May I request you to take a more clear larger picture of the two sides individually?

[capnbirdseye]

The portrait side of the coin looks as if struck slightly off centre, I don't suppose this could be a trial strike could it?  needs close up picture to see quality of the dies

[ravibhatica]

I Attach Full Size images see and tell your view on this coin this is genuine and fake??? but today when i take picture of this coin then i notice the  exact reverse side of coin make 10.00 clock angle see images no.2
for better view i take picture 12.0 clock angle sorry for my poor english

[Md. Shariful Islam]

Replica. Probably cast.

[FosseWay]

Or perhaps a contemporary fake, which IMV at least is more interesting as a collectable object than a modern replica designed to deceive collectors.

The failure to arrive at the correct reverse and obverse combination is not unusual among forgers of everyday currency. Compare the fake UK and Irish halfpennies of the 1770s and 1780s that carry dates that don't exist in the genuine series, and the huge variety of errors present in modern forgeries of UK 1-pound coins. On the other hand, someone who is faking coins for the collector market is perhaps more likely to get such obvious things right.

[akona20]

Firstly your english is not a problem on this site, in fact it is very good.

It appears to be a wonderful contemporary fake. Perhaps to some not as good as real coin but a real work of art.

[capnbirdseye]

Are we presuming it would have been silver washed at some time so as to pass off as a Rupee

[Figleaf]

That's a possibility. Another possibility is that it was meant to be silvered and used by jewellers. Even when silvered, the uneven pearl border would have exposed it as a fake.

Peter

[capnbirdseye]

I wonder if those scratches across the face were deliberate to expose it as not a real coin

[Figleaf]

Or maybe to make it look more authentic and circulated or maybe they were made by the person who discovered it wasn't a silver coin...

Peter

[akona20]

Or perhaps a more political reason, the face of the ruler defaced on a fake coin. The scenarios are interesting.

[FosseWay]

Or perhaps a more political reason, the face of the ruler defaced on a fake coin. The scenarios are interesting.

I'd wondered that, too. I have a rupee (genuine AFAIK) with scratches that look more deliberate than normal wear and tear, specifically on Victoria's portrait, and have always wondered whether it had passed through the hands of an Indian nationalist at some point.

[@josephjk]

I'd wondered that, too. I have a rupee (genuine AFAIK) with scratches that look more deliberate than normal wear and tear, specifically on Victoria's portrait, and have always wondered whether it had passed through the hands of an Indian nationalist at some point.

Or perhaps a more political reason, the face of the ruler defaced on a fake coin. The scenarios are interesting.

Here in Texas I find a lot of scratched up lincoln pennies and Washington quarters.....Texas separatists perhaps...? Or the butchered Churchill crown....the IRA maybe...? you're right - makes one wonder....people who deface coins for the nation....this one deserves it's own topic.