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Offline capnbirdseye

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Akbar Dam, Dar al-khilafat ??
« on: August 13, 2012, 10:11:34 PM »
Another Akbar Dam rescued from oblivion, what looks like sandy clay is more like concrete & I can't seem to shift it
 
 I can see the word Khilafat so I'm guessing  Shahjahanabad?

20.36g
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Re: Akbar Dam, Dar al-khilafat ??
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2012, 11:27:12 PM »
Try putting your coin in hot water and when it is nice and hot, surprise it with ice cold water. The expanded metal may crack the dirt and the sudden cooling will give it no chance to move back into place, so that it can be further treated in and around the cracks. The temperature change should not affect the coin.

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Re: Akbar Dam, Dar al-khilafat ??
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2012, 11:32:24 PM »
The actual mintname is written on the right image, just on edge of the coin. Very hard to say what it could be.

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Re: Akbar Dam, Dar al-khilafat ??
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2012, 11:39:41 AM »
1 - The epithet "dar al-khalifat" was used by a limited number of Akbar's mints : Agra, Ahmadabad, Akbarabad, Akbarpur Tanda, Awadh, BahraƮch, Dogaon, Gorakhpur, Gwalior, Jaunpur, Lahore, Lukhnow, Malpur & Shahgarh Qanauj.
2 - The "S like" sign visible under "falus.." indicates the presence of a letter "K" or "G" in the middle (or at end ?) of the mintname, which limits possibilities to 5 or 6 mints..
3 - It seems that there is a "rosette" symbol  in the "sin" of "falus" ?

 
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Re: Akbar Dam, Dar al-khilafat ??
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2012, 12:48:30 PM »
3 - It seems that there is a "rosette" symbol  in the "sin" of "falus" ?

It does look like some kind of symbol, it's too obscured to see the shape, I'm trying Peters hot water idea to get the clay off
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Re: Akbar Dam, Dar al-khilafat ??
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2013, 11:33:08 PM »
Going through this old post , I think the mint name is Dar-al-khilafat Lakhnow!
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Re: Akbar Dam, Dar al-khilafat ??
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2013, 03:20:58 AM »
I would tend to agree (with my very limited skills). Even the date can be read...........which would be fairly useful to make a determination.

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Re: Akbar Dam, Dar al-khilafat ??
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2013, 12:53:51 PM »
I never did get the coin any cleaner, the hot/cold water treatment didn't work, it must be imbedded in concrete  :o
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Re: Akbar Dam, Dar al-khilafat ??
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2013, 02:12:42 PM »
I can see the word Khilafat so I'm guessing  Shahjahanabad?

I missed this one earlier. Shah Jahan came to the throne at least 22 years after Akbar........So Shahjahanabad could not have existed then.

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Re: Akbar Dam, Dar al-khilafat ??
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2013, 06:37:30 PM »
I join Abhinumis and vote for "dar al-khalifat Lukhnow"
for the date, I think that it's : "nuhsad (wa) Hashtad (wa) do : 982
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Re: Akbar Dam, Dar al-khilafat ??
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2013, 12:13:12 AM »
I never did get the coin any cleaner, the hot/cold water treatment didn't work, it must be imbedded in concrete

The hot/cold water treatment is just for making cracks. You need to work on the coin afterwards, e.g. with a wooden toothpick.

Peter
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