My latest World coins acquisition

[drkrish]

25 World coins - now my country count increased to 81 


http://technumo.blogspot.in/2012/06/25-foreign-coin-aquisition-1862012.html

1.BRAZIL 5 CENTAVOS FF012
2.JAMAICA 5 DOLLAR FF019
3.RWANDA 1 FRANCES GG03
4.SWEDEN 5 ORE  BB140
5.ROMANIA 1 BAN  BB128
6.COLUMBIA 10 CENTS BB110
7.CHILE 50 PESOS DD132
8.COSTA RICA 10 COLONES DD105
9.ECUADOR 5 CENTAVOS EE132
10.CESKOSLOVENSKA 1 KORUNA CC136
11.YUGOSLAVIA 50 PARA CC130
12.FIJI 5 CENTS DD118
13.HUNGARY 20 FILLER DD127
14.TRINIDAD TOBAGO 25 CENTS * DD138
15.CROATIA 20 LIPA CC133
16..MACAU 1 PATACA EE117
17.NICARAGUA 1 CORDOBA EE106
18.PERU 20 CENTIMOS  EE145
19.URUGUAY 10 CENTESIMOS EE123
20.DOMINICAN REPBULIC 1 PESCO EE135
21.POLAND 1 groszy CC101
22.PANAMA 5 CINCO CC134
23.CONGO 10 CENTS DD101
24.BAHAMAS 5 CENTS *AA122
25.ISRAEL 10 AGOROT *DD113

[Bimat]

Congrats! Could you please explain what do codes like DD113 mean?

And about the country count, I think you can easily go up to 150, after that it becomes slightly difficult. My count is still somewhere near 220...Haven't added a single new country (coin that is!) except Vatican.

Aditya

[Mackie]

Buy this lot and your country count will jump to 180 automatically but I know its no fun. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180-coins-of-180-countries-areas-with-an-album-FREE-S-H-/400302245517?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item5d33df868d

[Figleaf]

Nice collection with good prospects. As you make more progress, it will be increasingly difficult to define "country". At some point, you will encounter coins of non-existent countries. Look at these for examples. Maybe the discussion here will be of help. You already have two coins of countries that no longer exist (Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia.) As you go back in time, it will also become more difficult to define "country" also.

Have fun collecting.

Peter

[Prosit]

I have approximately 192 countries but I have a loose definition of a country.  For instance I will count India and British India as 2 countries and Belgium and the Belgium Congo as 2 countries.  I also will count a state as one country such as Gwalior.  I would count Italy and a Roman coin as different and Franch and the French Colonies as seperate.
Here is my Breakdown of coins by the first letter of the country's name:

For instance "A"   "12" means I have 12 countries starting with "A" (not 12 coins).


A   12
B   7
C   19
D   3
E   7
F   7
G   13
H   4
I   12
J   4
K   7
L   7
M   14
N   12
O   1
P   10
Q   2
R   7
S   19
T   10
U   5
V   4
W   1
X   0
Y   2
Z   3

Total 192

Any countries start with a X?

Dale

[Prosit]

Would you count Ceylon and Sri Lanka as two?
North Vietnam and South Vietnam and Vietnam as 3?

Dale

[malj1]

Would you count Ceylon and Sri Lanka as two?
North Vietnam and South Vietnam and Vietnam as 3?

Dale

Likewise with UK. I have British coins and Scottish coins plus a good collection of Welsh banknotes.

Then there are the islands - Man, Lundy, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark, Alderney, Herm, [I have a Herm tourist note collection.] to name a few. Then there are also tokens from Scottish islands and IOW.

[gerard974]

Hello
Is my collection 257 countries
best regards   Gerard

            nombre de pays   nombre de pieces
AFRIQUE            70                   1253
EUROPE            53                   2875
ASIE               50                   1462
AMERIQUE          44                   1725
OCEANIE            16                   354
POLOGNE            1                   349
PROCHE ET MOYEN ORIENT      20                            765   
RUSSIE            1                   351
BELGIQUE         1                   160
FRANCE            1                   1018
EUROS            0                   1403
      total      257                   11715

[FosseWay]

Gerard at least has pipped me to the post... I have 246 separate 'countries'. As others have said, it depends how you define 'country'. Personally I class a separate official coin-issuing entity as a separate 'country', so Jersey, Guernsey and Herm (yes, I have that tourist note as well) are genuine 'countries', as are the pre-1867 Canadian provinces.

However, I get a bit more lax when it comes to older issuers. I have combined all the pre-1871 German states into one file, for example, so they show up as one 'country' called German States. Likewise for Italian, Dutch and Austrian states. If I counted each German etc. state for which I had at least one coin separately, the total would probably go over 300. And I have a couple of French regional issues that I've just stuck at the start of France pending a decision on what to do with them (starting with attributing them correctly).

I also don't count Northern Ireland or Scotland as separate, since the banknotes they issue are valid across the UK, which the Channel Islands etc. ones aren't. Also because I'm primarily a coin rather than note collector, there's no reason to separate them for coin purposes. Scotland before 1707, for which I have all of 5 coins, is separate, though.

As to the Ceylon/Sri Lanka question, my policy is that if there's a clear line of succession from one kind of state to another covering substantially the same geographical area, then I count it as one. So Ceylon and Sri Lanka are the same for me, just as pre- and post-1947 India are the same. Tsarist Russia, the USSR and post-Soviet Russia are the same country for me, but various bits of the Tsarist and Soviet empires that have regained independence are separate for their independent issues. If a small part of a large country becomes independent (as with the Soviet republics and East Timor), I just start a new file for the independent bit. Indonesia before and after the independence of East Timor is substantially the same country, numismatically. On the other hand, when Czechoslovakia split up I created two new files for the successor states.

When countries combine I have to make a judgement of whether to start a new file for the combined country or have a continuum for one predecessor and a separate file for the other(s). For the UK this was easy, as I had pre-1707 English coins before I had similar Scottish ones, so the continuum goes from my earliest English coin (a Northumbrian coin from the 8th century) to modern UK issues, with a separate file for pre-1707 Scotland. My Germany file covers united Germany from 1871 on, with the DDR as a separate file.

[Bimat]

I don't have detailed record of coins I have like Gerard although I do maintain an excel file which I update regularly. (as and when new coins are received or sent to someone). The excel file has all the important details of all the coins (denomination, composition, KM#, weight, diameter, date, edge type, mint marks if any, mintage wherever available, shape, description of obverse and reverse etc)..I have recently added a column for 'continent' too but not yet fully updated. I also intend to include another column for designer(s), but considering the size of excel file, it seems very difficult to update that column. So according to the excel file I have maintained, I can say that my collection has highest number of coins from US (thanks to state quarters and presidential dollars which I collect by mint mark), followed by Russia, Belgium, France, Germany and so on. (Euro coins excluded) I have excluded India here as I don't collect Indian coins anymore. Europe must dominate over other continents, and (I guess) Africa is least represented in my collection which is not at all a good sign , considering the variety of coins from Africa.

Aditya

[gerard974]

Hello
Is more easy for me to put a list that to try to explaint with my english
Best regards  Gerard

1   ETATS D'AFRIQUE EQUATORIALE            9
1   AFRIQUE EQUATORIALE FRANCAISE            5
1   AFRIQUE OCCIDENTALE FRANCAISE            9
1   ETATS D'AFRIQUE DE L'OUEST                          17
1   ETATS D'AFRIQUE CENTRALE                          25
1   AFRIQUE de L'EST                                          26
1   AFRIQUE DE L'OUEST                          12
1   AFARS et ISSAS                                             7
1   AFRIQUE DU SUD                                         229
1   ALGERIE                                                         50
1   ANGOLA                                                         20
1   BOTSWANA                                            15
1   BURUNDI            4
1   CAMEROUN             18
1   CAP VERT            12
1   REP. CENTRAFRICAINE            4
1   COLONIES FRANCAISES            2
1   COMORES            15
1   CONGO            3
1   CONGO BELGE            10
1   REPUBLIQUE DU CONGO            11
1   DJIBOUTI            9
1   ERYTHREE            6
1   ETHIOPIE            12
1   GABON            3
1   GAMBIE            11
1   GHANA            20
1   GUINEE            8
1   GUINEE BISSAU            7
1   GUINEE EQUATORIALE            1
1   KATANGA            2
1   KENIA            25
1   LESOTHO            5
1   LIBERIA            3
1   LYBIE            25
1   MADAGASCAR            37
1   MALAWI            17
1   MALI            2
1   MAROC            69
1   MAURITANIE            8
1   ILE MAURICE            49
1   MOZAMBIQUE            43
1   NAMIBIE            5
1   NIGERIA            16
1   OUGANDA            13
1   ILE DE LA REUNION            59
1    RHODESIE            9
1   RHODESIE ET NYASALAND            5
1   RHODESIE DU SUD            14
1   RUANDA            13
1   RUANDA URUNDI            5
1   SAHARAWI REPUBLIC            3
1   SAINT HELENS            1
1   SAINT HELENS ET ASCENCION            3
1   SAINT THOMAS ET PRINCE            9
1   SEYCHELLES            33
1   SIERRA LEONE            3
1   COTE FRANCAISE DES SOMALIS            6
1   REPUBLIQUE DES SOMALIS            21
1   SOMALILAND            17
1   SOUDAN            23
1   SWAZILAND            20
1   TANZANIE            16
1   TCHAD            3
1   TOGO            1
1   TUNISIE            56
1   ZAIRE            4
1   ZAMBIE            13
1   ZANZIBAR            1
1   ZIMBABWE            16
AMERICA               
1   ANTILLES NEERLANDAISES            21
1   ARGENTINE            144
1   ARUBA            5
1   BAHAMAS            12
1   BARBADE            6
1   BELIZE            7
1   BERMUDES            15
1   BOLIVIE            32
1   BRESIL            180
1   BRITISH HONDURAS            4
1   BRITISH VIRGINS ISLANDS            5
1   CAIMAN ISLAND            12
1   CANADA            212
1   CHILI            56
1   COLOMBIE            45
1   COSTA RICA            80
1   CUBA            43
1   CURACAO            6
1   Rep. DOMINICAINE            30
1   EAST CARRIBEAN            20
1   EQUATEUR            46
1   ETATS UNIS D'AMERIQUE             141
1   ILES FALKLAND            14
1   GUADELOUPE            3
1   GUATEMALA            36
1   GUYANE            1
1   GUYANA            14
1   HAITI            13
1   HONDURAS            27
1   JAMAIQUE            31
1   MARTINIQUE            1
1   MEXIQUE            49
1   NEW FOUNLAND            8
1   NICARAGUA            46
1   NOUVELLE ECOSSE            1
1   PANAMA            19
1   PARAGUAY            41
1   PEROU            116
1   SAINT PIERRE ET MIQUELON            1
1   SALVADOR            29
1   SURINAM            9
1   TRINITAD et TOBAGO            15
1   URUGUAY            74
1   VENEZUELA            55
ASIA               
1   AFGHANISTAN            18
1   ARMENIE            14
1   AZERBAIJAN            13
1   BANGLADESH            16
1   BHUTAN            10
1   BIELORUSSIE            18
1   BRITISH NORTH BORNEO            2
1   BRUNEI            14
1   BURMA            23
1   CAMBODGE            6
1   CEYLON            24
1   CHINE            60
1   COCHINCHINE            1
1   COREE DU NORD            15
1   COREE du SUD            13
1   HONG KONG            39
1   INDE            205
1   INDES BRITANIQUES            45
1   INDES DANOISES            1
1   INDES NEERLANDAISES            14
1   INDES PORTUGUESE            1
1   INDONESIE            34
1   INDOCHINE            24
1   JAPON            16
1   KAZACHSTAN            72
1   KYRGYZSTAN            6
1   LAOS            7
1   MACAO            13
1   MALAYA            10
1   MALAYA ET BRITISH  BORNEO            6
1   MALAYSIE            28
1   ILES MALDIVES            8
1   MONGOLIE            24
1   NAGORNO KARABATH            7
1   NEPAL            89
1   PAKISTAN            57
1   PHILIPPINES            45
1   SARAWAK            1
1   SINGAPOUR            20
1   SRI LANKA            34
1   STRAITS SETTLEMENTS            14
1   TAIWAN            18
1   TAJIKISTAN            21
1   TATARSTAN            3
1   THAILANDE            272
1   TIBET            2
1   TIMOR            12
1   TRANSDNESTRIA            5
1   TURKMENISTAN            15
1   UZBEKISTAN            16
1   VIET NAM            31
EUROPA               
1   ACORES            1
1   ALBANIE            34
1   ALLEMAGNE RFA            110
1   ALLEMAGNE RDA             23
1   ANDORRE            8
1   AUTRICHE            70
1   BOHEME ET MORAVIE            4
1   BOSNIE  HERZEGOVINE            6
1   BULGARIE            121
1   CHYPRE            29
1   CROATIE            38
1   DANZIG            2
1   DANEMARK            81
1   ESPAGNE            132
1   ESTONIE            16
1   FINLANDE            44
1   GEORGIE            9
1   GIBRALTAR            18
1   GRANDE BRETAGNE            253
1   GRECE            81
1   GUERNESEY            28
1   HONGRIE            71
1   HOLLANDE            49
1   IRLANDE            23
1   ISLANDE            25
1   ITALIE            85
1   JERSEY            44
1   LETTONIE            38
1   LITHUANIE            34
1   LUXEMBOURG            31
1   MACEDOINE            12
1   MADERE            1
1   MALTE            25
1   ILE DE MAN            62
1   MOLDAVIE            8
1   MONACO            39
1   MONTENEGRO            2
1   NORVEGE            59
1   PORTUGAL            137
1   ROUMANIE            100
1   SAINT MARIN            283
1   SARRE            4
1   SERBIE            33
1   SLOVAQUIE            16
1   SLOVENIE            25
1   SPITZBERGEN            2
1   SUEDE            54
1   SUISSE            76
1   TCHECOSLOVAQUIE            69
1   REPUBLIQUE TCHEQUE            12
1   UKRAINE            175
1   VATICAN            74
1   YOUGOSLAVIE            100
MIDDLE EAST               
1   ARABIE SAOUDITE            45
1   ARABIE DU SUD            4
1   BAHREIN            18
1   EGYPTE            133
1   EMIRATS ARABES UNIS            33
1   HEJAZ            1
1   IRAK            75
1   IRAN            95
1   ISRAEL            68
1   JORDANIE            45
1   KOWEIT            13
1   LIBAN            27
1   MUSCAT ET OMAN            2
1   OMAN            19
1   PALESTINE            7
1   QUATAR            6
1   QUATAR ET DUBAI            5
1   SYRIE            59
1   TURQUIE            88
1   YEMEN            22
OCEANIA               
1   AUSTRALIE            143
1   ILES COOK            15
1   ILES FIDJI            40
1   KIRIBATI            2
1   NIUE            5
1   NOUVELLE CALEDONIE            20
1   NOUVELLES HEBRIDES            12
1   NOUVELLE ZELANDE            58
1   OCEANIE FRANCAISE            4
1   PAPOUASIE Nelle GUINEE            6
1   POLYNESIE FRANCAISE            15
1   ILES SALOMON            10
1   ILES SAMOA            8
1   TONGA            7
1   TUVALU            1
1   VANUATU            8
1   France            1018
1   POLOGNE            349
1   RUSSIE            351
0   EUROS            1043
257               11196

[Figleaf]

Several places you mention in the discussion (e.g. Lundy, Vatican) are not countries according to international law (see the link I gave before*). At the same time, one of the largest legitimate coin-issuing entities, Euroland, is not a country either. Back when I still cared about having coins from all countries, I took the Yeoman catalogue as a guide. If it had a separate section (not a sub-section), it would be good enough for me. If I'd have to start again, I wouldn't count anything before 1815 as a country and I'd take the list of UN members as a starting point.

Peter

* In a nutshell: The dominant customary international law standard of statehood is the declarative theory of statehood that defines the state as a person of international law if it "possess[es] the following qualifications:

• a permanent population
• a defined territory
• government
• capacity to enter into relations with the other states

Debate exists on the degree to which recognition should be included as a criterion of statehood.

[villa66]

Hello
Is more easy for me to put a list....

An impressive list, full of fun. A date collection, or a type collection?

v.

[gerard974]

Hello
I collect by type KM except reunion island and France by year and euros by year since 1999 to 2007 and just one set for new countries after 2007
best regards  Gerard

[villa66]

From what I know about the number of types that modern world coin type collectors usually assemble, then, Wow!

v.