1825 Madras Presidency Pie KM#428

[repindia]

Let's do another date in this series-- 1824 4 pice. I lost one BU example in the mail which was not insured. The pain of losing that example was more than losing the money.

[repindia]

This does not belong here. Moderators please feel free to delete this if does not fit. 1824 4 pies proof. I could not find my better example so this will have to do.

[PeaceBD]

Vikram, I appreciate you sharing the pictures of the various denominations in this series. I just can't stop drooling. Each of the coin you have posted is awesome and should make the owner proud. If you don't mind please include the grades as it would further help in understanding the grading for this series.

Thanks
Bhushan

[repindia]

Thanks Bhushan.  The reason why I don't like putting grades is that I am not obsessed by them and go purely by how I like the coin-- eye appeal, absence of marks, strike, color not necessarily in order. It so happens that many a times the higher graded coin meets my criteria than the lower graded one. Secondly grading based on pictures (especially mine) is not accurate and this might convey a wrong impression to many a folks who are new to this concept.

Just in case the 2 pice is 63 and the 1 pice as I already mentioned is 64. The proof is 63 and it's counterpart is a 58. The funny thing is that the three 4 pice coins I have shown all look different and is very difficult to determine where they would fall. I like #1 followed by #3 and lastly # 2. These three grade 64-65 and I bet even in hand you would grade them very differently!  Try guessing the grades on these.

[Harry]

@repindia - thanks for sharing your coins. Although, I don't collect the Presidency coins, I think your coins are awesome! I really like the 4 Pice coins that you have.   I too would appreciate knowing the assigned grade.  As you know, the third party grading companies don't take eye appeal into account so an ugly looking coin that I would never touch could be graded MS67 while an really nice looking one could be graded AU58.  Anyway, regardless of grades your coins are very nice!

Haha... thanks for reminding me. I am just human so cut me some slack.

I hear you! As I was typing  this response, I got a notification from ebay that I was out bid and lost getting a coin that I really want, and now I'm upset too!! 

[cj_fam]

Hi Bhushan,

Please have a look at this coin. It's PR64. I haven't seen it much passing any auction except one. Is it an unlisted type of coin as  proof?

Khalid

[The Oracle]

Let's do another date in this series-- 1824 4 pice. I lost one BU example in the mail which was not insured. The pain of losing that example was more than losing the money.

insured? lost? 

[PeaceBD]

Hi Bhushan,

Please have a look at this coin. It's PR64. I haven't seen it much passing any auction except one. Is it an unlisted type of coin as  proof?

Khalid

Khalid, proofs are noted from the Royal Mint on all the 3 pice denominations. This particular coin is Pridmore no 283. I would call it rare based on the auction apperences.

BD

[The Oracle]

Khalid, proofs are noted from the Royal Mint on all the 3 pice denominations. This particular coin is Pridmore no 283. I would call it rare based on the auction apperences.

BD

it reminds me of a time when the idiots at ngc couldnt find a proof in krause so they called it ms.  anyways its no longer my problem.   

[cj_fam]

NGC is all over the place in terms of grading.

Whenever I have something tricky, I send it to PCGS. They have very experienced graders. I have heard people saying PCGS is lenient with the grades. I would say they grade the coin according to the strike. Most of the Indian coins are weak strikes and they have to be graded accordingly, which PCGS does best.

Recently got an 1877 Half anna graded through them, and I was hoping for MS60 or AU58, it came back MS63. It was a very weak strike.