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Offline maudry

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Re: Fake French and French colonial coins and medals
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2017, 07:57:12 PM »
I don't like it - general appearance.
The crown of the rooster is different form all I have checked right now, no matter which mint mark.
Here are two more originals to compare with.
http://www.cgb.fr/la-convention-six-livres-dit-au-genie-1793-metz,v40_0341,a.html
http://www.cgb.fr/la-convention-six-livres-dit-au-genie-1793-metz,v28_1267,a.html

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Re: Fake French and French colonial coins and medals
« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2017, 08:32:18 PM »
For me it's the L'AN II that gives it away
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Re: Fake French and French colonial coins and medals
« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2017, 10:13:19 PM »
And the AA mintmark.

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Re: Fake French and French colonial coins and medals
« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2017, 08:25:20 AM »
Thank you everyone for your valuable time and inputs (Also for educating a novice)!! Thankfully i did not pay much for it and will consider it as a reminder for the near future.

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Re: Fake French and French colonial coins and medals
« Reply #49 on: May 19, 2017, 02:04:14 PM »
Hello,

What do you think about those chops ?
Not a common host if genuine.
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Offline Rockhan46

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Re: Fake French and French colonial coins and medals
« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2017, 12:15:38 PM »
Hi,

I need information about attached Cancer coins. I searched on internet but I could not find any information.

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Offline Figleaf

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Re: Fake French and French colonial coins and medals
« Reply #51 on: May 22, 2017, 12:45:23 PM »
This is not a coin. Turn your picture 90° clockwise and you will see what remains of a ring at 12 o'clock, showing that it was part of a jewellery item. The word CANCER confirms that it is not of Indian origin.

Peter
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Offline Rockhan46

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Re: Fake French and French colonial coins and medals
« Reply #52 on: May 22, 2017, 03:58:21 PM »
Yes you are right Peter. There was a part like a necklace. There was written 23 JVIL and 23 JVIN. What is the meaning. What can be price of this medal.

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Offline Figleaf

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Re: Fake French and French colonial coins and medals
« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2017, 06:12:11 PM »
I presume those are dates in French: 23 juillet (July) and 23 juin (June). The astrological sign of cancer spans the 90-120th degree of the zodiac. Under the tropical zodiac, the Sun transits this area on average between June 22 and July 22

If the medal is made of good silver, you should be able to get silver value minus melting cost. If it is silver, there should be a silver hallmark somewhere, though it might have broken off with the ring.

Peter
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Offline maxmissy

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Re: Fake French and French colonial coins and medals
« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2017, 06:18:35 PM »
No mystery at all : Look to zodiac - These dates are the beginning and end of the cancer period in the zodiac

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Re: Fake French and French colonial coins and medals
« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2017, 01:24:13 PM »
Characters look OK to me, but I am not an expert. Indeed, chops on French coins are not often encountered, but it is easy to construe a scenario that explains their presence in China, through the military and the French presence in Indo-China. There is little incentive for fraudsters to fabricate the chops: most chopped coins are cheaper than unchopped coins.

You could try a PM to our member square earth, who can tell whether the characters look well written or clumsy.

Peter
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