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Re: UK local transportation tokens
« Reply #315 on: March 13, 2015, 11:34:52 PM »
That is not a problem as here they are taking a lot of seats out to increase the capacity for standing passengers, likewise with the trains. All due to a huge increase of people using the public transport system since the increased cost of petrol over the last few years.
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Re: UK local transportation tokens
« Reply #316 on: March 20, 2015, 04:15:21 PM »
I spent a happy day at the Gloucester Archives yesterday where they have a several documents related to the Gloucester Corporation Light Railways, but nothing that refers directly to tickets or tokens. Several documents refer to 'Fares' stating that they should not exceed 1D per mile and that 'workmen' should travel cheaper so it is likely that a 1/2 D fare did exist. So I think its status is still 'Possibly'.

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Re: UK local transportation tokens
« Reply #317 on: March 20, 2015, 05:24:51 PM »
Well, everything we know fits Gloucester, so the Sherlock Holmes reasoning applies: when you have discarded the impossible and the unlikely, what remains must be truth. Glad about your on-site research. It's by far the best way to knowledge. Maybe you can find more information through these people?

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Re: UK local transportation tokens
« Reply #318 on: March 20, 2015, 06:46:42 PM »
This will be my next enquiry. In fact the archive staff were quite interested in the project and made quite a few other suggestions too. 'Watch this space, but don't hold your breath' applies.

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Re: UK local transportation tokens
« Reply #319 on: March 20, 2015, 08:57:42 PM »
There is also the possibility that the ½d fare could be for a child.
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Re: UK local transportation tokens
« Reply #320 on: May 05, 2015, 12:04:39 PM »
A token for use by employees of the North Eastern Gas Board, whilst on duty, loaded today to the WoT site - our first piece there on the gas board page.

Smith attributes to Wakefield. ...was this the only location?

This rather special piece in orange plastic for 2½d is also shown below.
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Re: UK local transportation tokens
« Reply #321 on: May 05, 2015, 12:42:25 PM »
I went to the Vestry House museum in Walthamstow (near London) last week and spied a token on display. Similar to Smith number Walthamstow 815 PA but with 'W.U.D.C.' instead of 'W.B.C.'. Sorry about the image but taken through glass in a gloomy room on my mobile phone - there's a moral there somewhere!

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Re: UK local transportation tokens
« Reply #322 on: May 05, 2015, 01:19:09 PM »
A great find, but that's my quibble with museums, you can't have it!  ::)

Presumably uniface like the other in Smith which incidentally I notice is square.
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Re: UK local transportation tokens
« Reply #323 on: May 18, 2015, 09:19:03 AM »
From plasticman the following paragraph about the introduction of Celluloid tokens in Manchester...

...the Gloucestershire Chronicle dated September 3rd 1904 so this exactly dates the first celluloid Manchester tokens.

I have enhanced the cutting somewhat but its still a little indistinct.
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Re: UK local transportation tokens
« Reply #324 on: May 18, 2015, 09:39:47 AM »
David Voice lists under Toy Tram/bus token a ½d FARE token for a toy conductors play set. 25.5mm.

Made from a much lighter gauge tin [which should correctly be called tinned iron] than the penny.

See Reply #230 and Reply #285 for the penny.
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Re: UK local transportation tokens
« Reply #325 on: February 20, 2016, 11:19:17 AM »
An unlisted Derby corporation omnibuses 1½d prepaid. Brass 23.1mm

Unlike all the other pieces shown here this one does not have an inner circle near the rim.

The normal 1½d at 23.9mm is shown below.
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Re: UK local transportation tokens
« Reply #326 on: February 20, 2016, 11:55:50 AM »
Or... has it been cut down from the larger token? brass 26mm

...or struck on a small blank?   ???
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Re: UK local transportation tokens
« Reply #327 on: April 23, 2016, 09:45:45 AM »
NEWPORT CORPORATION TRANSPORT EMPLOYEES TRAVEL PERMIT REV. 514 stamped out celluloid sheet 50mm.

You can go anywhere you like but not on service 30  :o
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Re: UK local transportation tokens
« Reply #328 on: April 23, 2016, 11:10:07 AM »
That makes it pre-1986. However, I have not been able to establish when Newport Corporation Tramways became Newport Corporation Transport. I suspect it was somewhere in the thirties.

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Re: UK local transportation tokens
« Reply #329 on: April 23, 2016, 12:09:27 PM »
Before 1973 issue when 550 BA N.C.T. was Newport CITY Transport.

Five types of the EMPLOYEES TRAVEL PERMIT are listed in Smith; my one above is 550 PG

Newport Corporation Tramways
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Open    9 April 1903
Close    5 September 1937
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