1841 East India Company 2 Anna KM# 460.2

[akona20]

Welcome to the site Dmitry.

[DShamis]

Thanks Zoppo..

Been collecting British India now for about 6 months... Love them!

[Figleaf]

On "old-fashioned coin cabinets", really old ones are made of mature, good quality wood and harmless to coins. Modern ones are often made of young, bad quality wood. This wood contains juices that cause discolouring. The problem may be reinforced by felt covers containing the same weakeners that plague plastic coin bags. If you don't like the discolouring, old cabinets or high quality plastic trays without felts are a solution.

Peter

[Harry]

Thanks Zoppo..

Been collecting British India now for about 6 months... Love them!

Hi Dmitry, Welcome to WOC.  You will find many British India collectors here from experienced, experts to newbies. Why don't you introduce yourself by posting here: http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/board,23.0.html .

[PeaceBD]

Congrats on getting this coin. I was wondering who the person was that outbid me

Beautiful coin.

Dmitry

Dmitry, welcome to WOC. So you are the one who bid me up...

[Harry]

Here is the latest coin I've added to my BI collection and struck off my BI want list: 1841 2 Anna continuous legend. Well toned. Just arrived from Japan, out of all places!

[PeaceBD]

Here is the latest coin I've added to my BI collection and struck off my BI want list: 1841 2 Anna continuous legend. Well toned. Just arrived from Japan, out of all places!

Harry, congrats on your new acquisition. The coin looks nice but I guess the picture is not able to convey the luster on the coin making it hard to judge the overall beauty of the coin. Make sure when you buy coins with brownish/reddish toning that they have ample luster below the toning. If it has muted luster it is generally a sign of past dipping and improper rinsing of a coin.

Thanks
Bhushan

[Harry]

Make sure when you buy coins with brownish/reddish toning that they have ample luster below the toning. If it has muted luster it is generally a sign of past dipping and improper rinsing of a coin.

BD, thanks for your comments, I appreciate it.  For some odd reason, most of my Victoria Cont. Legend silver coins are heavily toned.  I have a 1840 CL 1 Rupee and 1/2 Rupee both Unc but very darkly toned and my 1/4 Rupee is also toned (green/blue) and then there is this 1841 2 Anna.   The ¼ Rupee and 2 Anna coins do show luster, i.e. when I move it around I can see the glossy surface. Not so for the 1 Rupee and ½ Rupee, they are black with a dull finish. 

If I can capture the 1 Rupee and 1/2 Rupee coins in a picture I'll post them here. Are you saying that these may have been dipped/cleaned  at some point in time?  I've always admired the 1 Rupee and 1/2 Rupee as I really like that finish/tone but if they are cleaned then that would be a major bummer for me :-(  They have been in my collection for the past 20 years. 

[PeaceBD]

BD, thanks for your comments, I appreciate it.  For some odd reason, most of my Victoria Cont. Legend silver coins are heavily toned.  I have a 1840 CL 1 Rupee and 1/2 Rupee both Unc but very darkly toned and my 1/4 Rupee is also toned (green/blue) and then there is this 1841 2 Anna.   The ¼ Rupee and 2 Anna coins do show luster, i.e. when I move it around I can see the glossy surface. Not so for the 1 Rupee and ½ Rupee, they are black with a dull finish. 

If I can capture the 1 Rupee and 1/2 Rupee coins in a picture I'll post them here. Are you saying that these may have been dipped/cleaned  at some point in time?  I've always admired the 1 Rupee and 1/2 Rupee as I really like that finish/tone but if they are cleaned then that would be a major bummer for me :-(  They have been in my collection for the past 20 years. 

Harry, a lot of times a decently toned coin is a good sign of originality of the coin. By originality I mean the coin has unmolested surface and was never dipped /cleaned in any kind of acidic solution or other abrasive which would strip its original luster. The 1923 Half Rupee (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,14546.0.html) I posted earlier is a good example of a lustrous coin. It is hard for us to judge the luster of a coin through pictures as it very much depends on how it is photographed. I will leave that judgment to you.
Dipped coins are not necessarily bad. A lot of times a properly dipped coin is more attractive to a novice collector as they appear bright and shiny, whereas a nice original coin with some natural toning may appear unattractive. Dipped coins which are not rinsed properly after dipping develop blotchy, marked surfaces after a while. That might be misconstrued by some as toning (which it is not). Some dipped coins also show vivid toning as the newly stripped surface of a silver coin will be affected more readily by elements it is exposed to. 
Try posting bigger pictures as it would help us judge the coin better. You can link pictures from Flickr , photobucket etc.

[Harry]

BD, here it is. Tough one to take as its a real dark coin.

[PeaceBD]

Harry , that coin is really hard to judge based on pictures. It looks mark free and would be considered uncirculated with presence of good luster below the toning. If it does not display any luster and appears bland in hand, I would say its surface has been knowingly or unknowingly been exposed to something which stripped the luster.

[Harry]

Harry , that coin is really hard to judge based on pictures. It looks mark free and would be considered uncirculated with presence of good luster below the toning. If it does not display any luster and appears bland in hand, I would say its surface has been knowingly or unknowingly been exposed to something which stripped the luster.

BD - once again, thanks for your comments! As always, they have been very helpful to me.

[PeaceBD]

Harry, I am glad it helped. I will post my Victoria Rupee this evening. It is toned but will show how the luster peeks through the toning.

BD

[Harry]

Here is the 1840 1/2 Rupee cont. legend.  Your comments on this is appreciated especially the brown over black tone on the obv.

[PeaceBD]

Here is the 1840 1/2 Rupee cont. legend.  Your comments on this is appreciated especially the brown over black tone on the obv.

Harry, that one does not look good. I guess that coin would not grade at major TPG.

BD