William IIII Rupee

[andyg]

I'm sorry to say, but if this were mine I would send it back to whence it came.
There are subtle differences on this one that would make me worried about it.
Look at Williams chin for example, or the comma after the IIII

Not aware of any die differences in the William IIII Rupees (unlike the Victorian portraits) but happy to be corrected

[PeaceBD]

  Wow! The cleaning issue with the coin made a lot of people overlook some very interesting points. The comma and the slightly raised bubbles under Williams neck makes me very very suspicious. 

[andyg]

looking at what I posted I think I squashed the right hand portrait a little. sorry.
Have tried again.

[brokencompass]

Good catch!

I thought it should probably be a die difference with the comma. So I went through 100's of pictures of older 1835 rupee auction and I did not find a comma that comes close to this. All the other commas are very sharp unlike this one. Would love to know if anyone else has any other thoughts about this.

[akona20]

http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,14035.msg97140.html#new

Please read the above post.

[PeaceBD]

http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,14035.msg97140.html#new

Please read the above post.

Art, you make a very valid point and I hope all the post here by various poster are taken in a positive light by the OPs. I believe most of the comments here are to help the OPs get their moneys worth and prevent from accumulating collection of questionable coins.

Thanks
Bhushan

[akona20]

If you buy cheap then you will be burned more often than if you buy from dealers with a fine reputation. The interent provides instant price changes for everyone to see, not like when I started collected and we relied on mail (remember airmail paper anyone?) for lists etc.

Sad story is folks over the ages of collecting have been caught sometime and if they say they have not they are mishandling the truth. The 20% saved will sometimes mean a 100% loss but it is your personal call how you do it.

[Figleaf]

When I saw the coin first, I noticed what sometimes looks like excess metal between the I and the neck and told myself it was probably a small dig. Wrong. I should have asked. If it (and the suspicious shadow near the second L) is the result of a tiny air bubble, this coin was cast and should not have passed the "ping" test.

Peter

[Md. Shariful Islam]

I am sorry to say, a perfectly preserved coin from circulation is alwyas doubtful. The coin is doubtful to me from the beginning. That's why I asked to test the ping and the diameter. This coin looks like the fakes that I come by. But Abhi said it passed those tests. Abhishek collected another victoria rupee in same condition with similar reflections. So....
Now the buble and the comma and chin.
Islam

[Harry]

I am sorry to say, a perfectly preserved coin from circulation is alwyas doubtful.

My 1835 Rupee is on the right - which is well preserved, I've highlighted the difference.  I hope my coin is not a fake!

Not aware of any die differences in the William IIII Rupees (unlike the Victorian portraits) but happy to be corrected

Krause does list a thin lettering Vs a regular one, which I assume is like ours.

[akona20]

If the coin passes the so called ping test it technically cannot be cast. As imprecise as this test seems it appears to work 100%. If it is not cast then what is it if it is not genuine?

[Md. Shariful Islam]

@Harry: Look at the eyes of King of your coin. I believe that he can watch. But the king of Dr: Abhishek seems to be blind to me.

Islam

[Harry]

Here is my coin and Andy's coin. Something tells me that none of these are fakes and that the differences are due to (1) the way the light hits the coin in the image (2) the ware of the coin.

[abhinumis]

Hi all,
The coin has certainly passed the ping test.. But the irregularities shown by Islamda and Harry is worth noting.. As a safe side I think I'll give back the coin to the seller.. Thanks a lot to all.. Awesome work by Harry and Islamda.
cheers 

[akona20]

If it was available for export I would take it.