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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #75 on: February 18, 2014, 07:41:14 AM »
Found it! not quite as nice as I recalled but it does not have a large hole through it.

The Elephant & Castle is nice on this one; the hole removed the entire castle on the other piece.

I recall another Elephant & Castle here recently?

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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #76 on: March 19, 2014, 06:50:10 PM »
Here's my latest acquisition

1874 Bel Oiseau  8)
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #77 on: March 19, 2014, 09:41:14 PM »
Nice one! It seems there are many dates, quite a collection could be formed.

Previously you mentioned:

And incidentally I found mention of Bel Oiseau.  In Sydney & Brisbane!  Newspapers from 1879-1880 say "CHAMPAGNE-Bel Oiseau, in quarts and pints."  Class!  8)

This is said to be the origin of the expression "mind your P's and Q'a" a reference to your tab by the publican.

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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #78 on: March 20, 2014, 01:44:03 AM »
The "quarts & pints" were more likely to be bottles and magnums, although pint bottles did exist. The Victorians though did have a hearty appetite when it came to champagne. The bubbly was drunk from champagne tankards, usually of silver. I own a silver third pint champagne charger which looks very much like a pewter pint pot except smaller and with much thinner walls.
Quarters, thirds, halves and pints were all common champagne measures up until the advent of WWI, the glass flute seems to have first appeared around the 1890's.

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I've just remembered that pint bottles of Moët were still available in London in the late 60's

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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #79 on: March 20, 2014, 06:52:40 AM »
Nice one! It seems there are many dates, quite a collection could be formed.

Previously you mentioned:

This is said to be the origin of the expression "mind your P's and Q'a" a reference to your tab by the publican.

I'm working on that collection ;)
And many thanks for the info re P's & Q's.   8)
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #80 on: March 20, 2014, 06:54:16 AM »
The "quarts & pints" were more likely to be bottles and magnums, although pint bottles did exist. The Victorians though did have a hearty appetite when it came to champagne. The bubbly was drunk from champagne tankards, usually of silver. I own a silver third pint champagne charger which looks very much like a pewter pint pot except smaller and with much thinner walls.
Quarters, thirds, halves and pints were all common champagne measures up until the advent of WWI, the glass flute seems to have first appeared around the 1890's.

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I've just remembered that pint bottles of Moët were still available in London in the late 60's

Thanks Peter, I shall look out for one for the Mrs, she loves her bubbly ;D
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #81 on: June 13, 2014, 02:25:49 PM »
A lovely champagne piece from BLEY FRERES REIMS CHAMPAGNE.
Kindly donated by a benefactor overseas  ;D
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #82 on: June 14, 2014, 01:10:34 AM »
Just reading through this thread again I see quite a collection of wine related tokens has formed.  :)

I also see that the token promised in February is still sitting on my desk here waiting to be posted! I shall endeavour to get it in the mail with some others next week.  ::) [PO closed Saturdays]

In the meantime...
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #83 on: June 17, 2014, 03:35:58 PM »
oooh!  Many thanks Mal  8)
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #84 on: July 09, 2014, 02:24:05 PM »
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #85 on: August 11, 2014, 06:07:06 PM »
Here are some more VERRE CONSIGNÉ
Each has M.F.A / DEPOSE on the reverse.
The ones at the top are in new francs  8)
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #86 on: August 13, 2014, 03:15:32 PM »
I drink more tea than wine.  Especially at the mo.  :'(

O: .BARRETT'S TEA WAREHOUSE. / 44 FETTER LANE
R: GOOD / WINE / NEEDS NO / BUSH
2.98g
21mm

A bit of Shakespeare for you 8) This begs the question. If you don't need to advertise it, why are you?
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #87 on: August 13, 2014, 06:21:34 PM »
The Dutch equivalent of the quote translates as "good wine needs no wreath", which means that something good (not necessarily wine) is best "advertised" by word of mouth. Maybe it's different in English...

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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #88 on: August 13, 2014, 06:42:55 PM »
Same thing really and my point exactly.  Your audience hear it on the grape vine  ::)  Why produce an advertising token when WOM is your best marketing tool.
Perhaps they'd just started.   ;)
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #89 on: August 25, 2014, 03:45:57 PM »
The latest and all ready one of my faves  8)
Many thanks to bagerap  ;D

30x35mm
14.7g

O: Dom Perignon 1638.1715 / (the monk himself)
R: MOËT & CHANDON / (crown) / 1743 / CHAMPAGNE
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