Wine related tokens

[redwine]

That ad got on my nerves straight away! 

It seems like a very small timeframe for said piece?

[bagerap]

Can't lay hands on it at the moment, but there's also a Deinhard Wine Florin in exactly the same format.

[redwine]

Can't lay hands on it at the moment, but there's also a Deinhard Wine Florin in exactly the same format.

Looking forward to seeing a piccy

[redwine]

Koto vin puissant - apéritif rouge ou blanc 

[redwine]

Latest acquisition 

Copper
21.95mm
3.22g

O: VILLE DE BOURG . AIN . / 1855
R: ASSOCIATION ALIMENTAIRE / VIN

[Figleaf]

Bourg-en-Bresse is not just the capital of the very nice Côtes de Bourg redwine, but also of the Poulet de Bresse, a chicken that actually tastes like chicken. The two are a fine combination with a strong sauce of redwine and lardons.

Curiously, the series is not in Elie.

Peter

[redwine]

I like Côtes de Bourg And lardons - fatty bacon.  Hmmm
Remember Peter, Elie generally only lists tokens with monetary values.

[redwine]

My sort of wine token! 
Apparently in Saint-Etienne 

23.85mm
2.9g
Brass

O: * CAFE J.SEYVE FILS AINE * / VINS / EN GROS / A BERARD
R: BON POUR / 12½ C. / EN CONSOMMATION

Added: Elie Saint-Etienne 152.1 NB shown as 27mm but that is measured diagonally! And it's actually 27.5mm 

[Figleaf]

A nice example of a denomination that didn't circulate in official coin. At the time, the lowest available denomination was 5 centimes. I suppose it was a commercial trick: buy 2 tokens for 25 cents and get your drinks for 12-½ centimes instead of 15 centimes.

Saint-Etiennes is South-West of Lyon. Just over 200 km to the South is Bédarrides, where Bérard Père et Fils are grossistes en vins.

Peter

[redwine]

Just had a look for Bédarrides in Elie, not listed.  But strangely I spotted another 12½c bon pour consommation in the Cafe Pontvianne, Beauzac.  Doesn't mention wine though

[Figleaf]

I wasn't claiming the tokens belong to the Bédarrides enterprise, rather that the family and their business seem to have moved there. There are more 12-½ centimes denominated tokens and I believe that shape is popular among them. Maybe their geographical locations (Beauzac is close to Sant-Etienne) are concentrated? Commercially, it seems like a good idea. Give a 16-⅔% discount and take seigniorage and loyalty advantages. As for the Café Pontvianne, I would be mightily surprised if the consommation in question were Coca Cola or Whiskey...

Peter

[redwine]

Understood Peter.  I looked for the town of Bédarrides in Elie   No tokens listed for the town 

[redwine]

3g
23.7mm
Octagonal
Brass

Thanks to another piece on the net I was able to see what the words on the token should be.  I hope to get a better piece in the future.....

O: HENRY WESTRON / WINE & SPIRIT MERCHANT / 23 HIGH ST / WHITECHAPEL / LONDON
R: 23 HIGH STREET WHITECHAPEL  / (elephant) / LONDON

[malj1]

I think I can help with this! I shall seek it later today, I am fairly sure I have it.

[redwine]

Excellent!  Many thanks Mal