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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #105 on: September 04, 2014, 11:13:54 AM »
I imagine these were attached to a bottle with a wire perhaps?


I've finally found out what these were for!  Thanks to an article in Collectionneur & Chineur no 72 18/12/2009.
It was a key for opening the wire cage and thus an integral part of the aforementioned. And obviously a nice keepsake afterwards.  Rather than use a knife or a pair of scissors and risk the servant getting badly cut the champagne houses provided this useful little tool. 8)
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #106 on: September 04, 2014, 12:09:02 PM »
Indeed that is something like I imagined, attached to that wire  ;D but had not thought it through to being used as a removal tool.  ::)

Pleased that we have it sorted at last.   :like:
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #107 on: September 04, 2014, 12:32:21 PM »
 ;D
You can read the whole article in French here
Some lovely pieces in that thread too 8)  and here
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #108 on: September 04, 2014, 12:36:32 PM »
I have opened quite a few champagne bottles, but never needed a knife or scissors ???

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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #109 on: September 04, 2014, 12:38:32 PM »
But not many in the late nineteenth century!  ;)

And I forgot to add the piece is written by Michel Paynat.  Now he does collect some interesting things!  8)
Brothels, champagne - sounds like my sort of collector ;D
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #110 on: September 04, 2014, 12:57:59 PM »
;D
You can read the whole article in French here
Some lovely pieces in that thread too 8)  and here

Very interesting links there which with Google translates help, reads after a fashion! The names and initials there may come in useful another day.  ::)
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #111 on: September 11, 2014, 04:11:44 PM »
This monster turned up in the post ;D

O: commanderie des grands vins d'amboise
R: nos roys l'ont ayme  (our kings loved it)
BRONZE J.BALME
151g
63mm
Depth 5.45mm

Amboise is on the Loire, east of Tours.

For more info, see http://www.commanderie-vins-amboise.com/
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #112 on: September 11, 2014, 04:14:30 PM »
And this  8)
3.5g
25mm (length of grapes)
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #113 on: September 12, 2014, 12:37:17 AM »
I believe I have seen a couple of those minus the ribbon - is it bracteate?
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #114 on: September 12, 2014, 07:18:19 AM »
It is  ;)
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #115 on: September 12, 2014, 08:48:01 AM »
I searched and found four but they had turned into oak leaves! brass, bracteate, about 33mm long.  ;D 3.2g

They do look very similar though, same manufacturer? I wonder.
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #116 on: September 23, 2014, 08:48:42 AM »
Many thanks to the ACJM I now have an article on the champagne pieces. 8)
"Les Medaillettes Publicitaires et Jetons de Champagne" by Michel Paynat BULLETIN N° 32  -  Décembre 2005
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #117 on: September 26, 2014, 10:49:54 PM »
From Portugal four wine  and Porto wine tokens
tin plate yellow and black  27 mm


brass  29 mm


brass  31 mm


brass  29 mm



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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #118 on: September 26, 2014, 11:36:23 PM »
You don't mention the size or metal; I think perhaps the first is in cardboard?
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Re: Wine related tokens
« Reply #119 on: September 27, 2014, 08:51:52 AM »
Now I have listed the size and metal.