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SAPHO 2d anyone familiar?

Started by bagerap, January 22, 2012, 12:26:46 PM

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bagerap

Obverse SAPHO 2d N.P.S.C.
Reverse  872


19mm,  bright powder coated, assumed to be modern.
Because it is numbered, I thought it might be site specific.

Thanks,
Bob


africancoins

It is the same "N.P.S.C." as on some of the pieces in this thread...

http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,6077.15.html

Some of the tokens for this issuers are in pennies and some in centimes....

Likely about 80 or so years old....

Machine token.

Thanks Mr Paul Baker

Figleaf

The plot thickens...

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

Prosit

Since it is a white powder I assume the token is Zinc?

The use of zinc in tokens that I collect seem to come from
two periods; WWI era and WWII era continuing to about 1965.

Of course I am sure there are lots of exceptions but that is my observation.
Dale





Quote from: bagerap on January 22, 2012, 12:26:46 PM
.....bright powder coated, assumed to be modern.
Thanks,
Bob



africancoins

These ones are Tin on Zinc - it would seem.

I think I saw details of this process on here a long time ago.... There are German tokens that used this method....

"Silvering" to Brass would be done with Nickel  -  and this is more often encountered on old British machine tokens...

Thanks Mr Paul Baker

bagerap

Thank you all for the information.
I had a very frustrating  time yesterday with an android phone that let me see the email alerts about this from WoC, but for some reason wouldn't let me connect.
I'm still befuddled by technology,  even though the child bride tries her best to enlighten me.

bagerap

This will narrow down the date:

New Polyphon Supply Co Ltd

Primary Address
2 Newman Street
St Marylebone
W

Additional Addresses
137 Oxford Street
Westminster
W
from July 1898

Business Detail
Category: Cinema Equipment Manufacturer or Supplier
Type: Automatic Pianos

Notes
Took over existing business, The Polyphon Supply Co Ltd at 84 and 137 Oxford Street.
Manufacturer of the Symphosia Electric Piano (prices from £10 to £1000)

Trading Information
Trading Dates: from 22 July 1898 until 17 November 1916.

End Notes: Wound up by Govt under the trading with the emeny act 1916, 17 November 1916

malj1

Another in nice condition and counter-marked 540
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

malj1

I now have this nice and very similar to Sapho Wertmarke Germania, counter-marked 364; silvered zinc 17.2mm.

In the mail for two months!  ;D
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

FosseWay

I have one very like Malcolm's 540 one (except mine says 519). It appears to be in brass, not zinc or tin.

malj1

Quote from: FosseWay on December 25, 2012, 10:02:08 AM
I have one very like Malcolm's 540 one (except mine says 519). It appears to be in brass, not zinc or tin.

There is a very similar brass 17mm piece listed as Hayes 287.10 ~ marked as scarce.
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

FosseWay

Sorry, I can't read.

My records do indeed say zinc (19 mm, 3.07 g) but my eye jumped to the next line down in Excel.  ::)  Too much Christmas food and drink, probably.

malj1

But this should be silvered zinc? In that case it is Hayes 287.4

[The silvering does fall off with the corrosion reaction]
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

redwine

Slightly different version or perhaps just better qualitywise?
Coin aligned
19mm
2.87g
Always willing to trade.  See my profile for areas of interest.

malj1

A nice piece apparently not yet suffering from zinc disease!

I have a collection of these at New Polyphon Supply Co Ltd.
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.