Bombay Presidency Rupee AH1215 Year 46, Pridmore-285

[cj_fam]

Hi PeaceBD,

Was it PCGS that you saw Pattern marked?

[PeaceBD]

Hi PeaceBD,

Was it PCGS that you saw Pattern marked?

Yes.

[Harry]

Good! You finally found a reference to a pattern of your coin.   If you decide to submit this to NGC they will probably  designate it as a PF xx and may use the Krause reference PN21. In which case you at least have a reference  number  to a pattern. However, they may choose not to use any reference (Pridmore or Krause) like with my coin 1861 1/2 Pice.  It just has PF 63.

Also, specimen coins (SP) are NOT patterns.  I do have a few British West Africa specimens in my collection desinated as SP 64, but these are not patterns but specimen coins produced by the King's Norton mint and do have the SP designation.

[cj_fam]

Is there a way to get it certified as pattern, then?

[Harry]

I am not very experienced with TPG services, however, have submitted before. I would suggest if you submit to NGC , you can provide a comment for your coin under the special instructions. You can tell them to specify the Krause reference number so that they will put down PN21 if they designate it as a pattern, along with the PF grade. This should be sufficient.   

[PeaceBD]

I guess NGC does it too. Check this out:
http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=3014&lotNo=24390

[Harry]

I guess NGC does it too. Check this out:http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=3014&lotNo=24390

Wow! Like I said, I don't think they have any protocol or procedure when it comes to detailing out Indian coins. It looks like its up to the grader to assign and write anything that they want on that slab lable, which isn't very reassuring.   

I've heard of a Pattern being wrongly designated as a MS coin by NGC and worst a business strike was incorrectly designated as a 1906 1 Anna pattern PR-1071 and sold in a London auction for $5000

[cj_fam]

Actually, it is vice-versa. The 1906 and 1929 Annas were struck with the characteristics of a circulating coin, therefore the designation given by NGC is right and PCGS is wrong.

[Oesho]

KM#   Pn21
Denomination   Rupee
Country   India-British\Bombay Presidency
Government   British Colony
Coinage Type   Patterns (Including off metal strikes)
Composition   Silver
Notes   Prid.#332.

Dear all, The pattern referred to above is of the series of 1832-1835, and has a plain edge.
The coin concerned in this thread is of the 1823-1824 series. Of that series there is no pattern issue (at least not to my knowledge) and the edge is grained.
So the question whether the coin, as shown by cj_fam, Reply#5, is a pattern can be with the present knowledge be ignored.

[cj_fam]

The coin that I have posted has a plain edge too and not a grained edge.