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Re: King Edward VIII: His Place in Numismatics
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2011, 09:51:40 PM »
If you are interested in seeing several official British stamp essays depicting Edward VIII, click here.

Scroll down to item number 9 and click on the underline purple-coloured figure of "9" to see the first illustrated item. There are seven pages of items to scroll through in all. Look at the very right-hand side of the numbered items to see whether they are illustrated - if so, a thumbnail of the stamp essays will be shown. Remember, click on the underlined item number - NOT the thumbnail. Happy browsing!

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Re: King Edward VIII: His Place in Numismatics
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2011, 03:47:42 AM »
Various Indian states also issued coins in Edward's name, in the local script.
The Jodhpur coins citing Edward VIII are illustrated here. The other Indian states to issue coins in his name are Jaipur and Kutch.

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Re: King Edward VIII: His Place in Numismatics
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2011, 11:37:34 AM »
I used to think that Edward VIII was a numismatic non-entity,

Me too thinking the same way  due to short reign and uncrowned status If I'm not wrong.

However some common wealth nations had devoted few coins to him.

Interesting thread.
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Re: King Edward VIII: His Place in Numismatics
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2011, 12:07:56 PM »
...and uncrowned status If I'm not wrong.

Yes, he was the king who was never crowned. And his brother George VI lost his title as Emperor after India became independent; so there was still a British Empire, but after that it was an empire without an emperor.

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Re: King Edward VIII: His Place in Numismatics
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2011, 04:02:02 AM »
The Indian Security Press, Nasik had prepared the design for the King Edward VIII stamps to be issued in India at the time of his coronation, but the work did not proceed beyond essay designs.

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Re: King Edward VIII: His Place in Numismatics
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2011, 04:31:41 AM »
Abdication medal of Edward VIII from Pinches London. Gilt - presumably brass or copper - 35mm.
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Re: King Edward VIII: His Place in Numismatics
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2011, 01:48:15 PM »
In Australia, a £1 note showing the portrait of Edward VIII was designed but never issued.


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Re: King Edward VIII: His Place in Numismatics
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2011, 02:13:30 PM »
In Australia, a £1 note showing the portrait of Edward VIII was designed but never issued.



Another rarity. So, while I hunt for unrealised coin designs, it seems you know where to look for the never-issued banknote designs.  8)

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Re: King Edward VIII: His Place in Numismatics
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2011, 07:17:24 PM »
I have added small images of the patterns for the reverse of Edward's silver threepence and half crown to this post:

http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,12573.msg85134.html#msg85134


Apparently the interlocking rings on the threepence are known as Saint Edmund's rings. Does anybody know the significance of these?

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Re: King Edward VIII: His Place in Numismatics
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2011, 09:01:51 PM »
Now when King Offa came to Saxony, Edmund was appointed to accompany him; and the old king was immediately struck by the beauty, both physical and spiritual, of the young prince, and by the zeal of his service. He applied to him the words of Solomon: "Hast thou seen a man swift in his work? He shall stand before kings and shall not be in obscurity" (Proverbs 22.29). Then in the presence of the whole court he embraced him and, putting a ring on his finger, said: "My most beloved son Edmund, accept this memento of our kinship and mutual love. Remember me as one grateful for your service, for which with God's permission I hope to leave you a paternal inheritance." Edmund's father hastened to explain to him the significance of this ceremony: was he prepared to accept King Offa as his adoptive father in place of his natural father? On Edmund's acceptance, Offa tearfully drew from his finger his ring - in fact, it was a coronation ring - and said: "Son Edmund, observe closely this ring, notice its design and seal. If, when I am far away, I intimate to you by this token my wish and desire, do you without delay execute my order. As the noble assembly here bears witness, I intend to regard you as my most beloved son and heir."

Then Offa continued on his pilgrimage. Having arrived in the Holy Land and venerated the Holy Places, he set out on his return journey via Constantinople. But as he was sailing through the Hellespont, he fell ill; so, disembarking at the monastery of St. George, he received the Holy Mysteries and prepared for death. His last act was to entrust his kingdom of East Anglia to Edmund, ordering his nobles to take his ring to Saxony as a token of his will. Then he reposed in peace and was buried in St.George's Bay on the Hellespont in the year 854.


Source: http://www.orthodox.net/western-saints/edmund-martyr-king-of-east-anglia.html
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Re: King Edward VIII: His Place in Numismatics
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2011, 09:08:50 PM »
Nothing like a bit of fiction to liven up the day - nice subject for a coin though!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Edmund

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Edmund was a king of East Anglia,[2] of whom almost nothing is known. The earliest authority for him is Abbo of Fleury, who wrote Passio Santi Eadmundi for the monks of Ramsay in the 980s. Abbo stated that Edmund came "ex antiquorum Saxonum nobili prosapia oriundus".[3] This has confused later translators into thinking that he was of continental Old Saxon origin, but according to the historian Steven Plunkett, Edmund was East Anglian, a country settled by Saxons.[4]

Edmund's fictitious continental origins were later expanded into legends which spoke of his parentage, his birth at Nuremberg, his adoption by Offa of Mercia, his nomination as successor to the king and his landing at Hunstanton on the North Norfolk coast to claim his kingdom.[5]

De Infantia Sancti Edmundi, a fictitious 12th century hagiography of Edmund's early life by Geoffrey of Wells, represented him as the youngest son of 'Alcmund', a Saxon king of Germanic descent. 'Alcmund' is a semi-historical figure who may never have existed.[6] Other accounts state that his father was the king he succeeded, Ęthelweard of East Anglia, who died in 854, apparently when Edmund was a boy of fourteen.


Quite fitting I suppose a fantasy subject for a fantasy coin!
always willing to trade modern UK coins for modern coins from elsewhere....

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Re: King Edward VIII: His Place in Numismatics
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2011, 10:24:01 PM »
How about a non-existant subject for a non-existant king?

Will that do ;D

Seriously though - are these not patterns rather than trials?
The brass 3d were trials - sent to machine makers for testing.*

*this may actually be an urban myth, it's another of those tales which is in every book but when you investigate very little official information is actually known.....
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Re: King Edward VIII: His Place in Numismatics
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2011, 10:52:20 PM »
How about a non-existant subject for a non-existant king?

Will that do ;D

Seriously though - are these not patterns rather than trials?

Again you have a point. I don't know whether the silver threepence design was intended to be USED (remember, the silver threepence continued alongside the brass threepence for some years), in which case it would be a trial, or whether it was minted just to see how such a coin would look and wear - in which case it would be a pattern. But someone somewhere knows the answer.

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Re: King Edward VIII: His Place in Numismatics
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2011, 10:58:34 PM »
Again you have a point. I don't know whether the silver threepence design was intended to be USED (remember, the silver threepence continued alongside the brass threepence for some years),

It used to be said the silver threepence continued for use in Scotland. ....certainly my Scottish aunt gave me some at the time, but maybe more likely for Malta and other colonies?
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Re: King Edward VIII: His Place in Numismatics
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2011, 11:21:28 PM »
Spotted on eBay today...
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