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Quote from: africancoins on January 16, 2023, 08:52:32 PMThe type Hayes-49.18 is an "Alloy" type according to Hayes. The piece you show for Hayes-49.18 above is actually Brass so it is not Hayes-49.18. Some of the pieces listed for this issuer as "Alloy" are Copper-Nickel and some are Nickel-plated-Brass or similar.The type with a "B" in a circle on each side is not listed in the book or the supplements by Hayes, therefore it was a good find.
QuoteI now realise there is information I should have given you regarding the contents. Two people had started this project back around 1978 [David Sealy and P. Wood] with a request in coins & medals and they started publishing items in TCS bulletin around the same time. At the the third installment this Dudley Deaver arrived on the scene and seems to have taken over; with his supplements to the catalogue added in that section. One section contained images [this I don't have] so this would be the reason for the photos you mention. I have obtained a lot of the back copies but am missing quite a few. The scan of these pages can be seen here [a zip file] in my Dropbox of those parts that I do have. So these three people with help from other members compiled what you have.In the meantime Ralph Hayes with help from his friend Brian Hennem, who sadly died suddenly, along with a different set of TCS members, had been working away independently to this and he published his book British Machine Tokens in 1986. I don't know what happened but Dudley Deaver and the other two people disappeared from the scene during the gap in TCS bulletins that I have. Sour grapes? Possibly. Anyway this work seems to have been left in limbo since that time and presumably Dudley Deaver has now departed this world. I may be able to read more into it when I have studied the paperwork. No sign of any of the three as members of the TCS since that time and 1984 when I joined. there had been a hiatus since 1978.
QuoteThere are two types, one brass and one copper-nickel.Introduced in 1970, made by Bell-Fruit for export in their machines to Sweden. Face value 50 Ore. Found in circulation in the UK due to thefts by dock workers of the tokens in transit.
QuoteIntroduced 1966, withdrawn 1968. Made by Bell-Fruit for their silver tankard fruit machines. The letters designated various areas of the country and were intended as identification devices much as serial numbers are used as jackpot tokens. "A" probably stands for the London area, J was the last letter used. It is not known why H&I were not used.
Quote from: andyg on January 17, 2023, 12:12:33 AMBack in 2013 Malcolm [malj1] bought a collection of Machine Tokens - ex-Dudley Deaver, DNW would not ship overseas as they claimed the lot was too large. It actually just needed repackaging - so I arrange a courier to collect it. In amongst the many machine tokens were 13 folders of "rubbings" and lots of bits of information. I scanned the documentation and emailed it to Malcolm as I thought it too good for it to go missing in the post, thanks to the good people at Microsoft keeping a copy of the emails I sent all these years I still have them...
Quote from: africancoins on January 16, 2023, 08:52:32 PMBrian, I have a pair for Hayes-49.26 as per the pair you show above for Hayes-49.27. I just have one piece for Hayes-49.27.
Quote from: Figleaf on January 18, 2023, 02:43:27 PMAs you may know, I am Dutch. The Dutch are known for being blunt, crude, boorish, direct and in-your-face all at the same time, so I have an excuse for this post. Here is what andyg would have written if he had been Dutch, rather than British:Hey Brian, I smell an opportunity. How about setting up a WoT section on UK entertainment tokens. I know my way around the Wikipedia software, you have plenty of pictures and good background information. I can set it up for you if you are willing to fill it in. You can count on my help and support and as a bonus, I also have good extra information from Malcolm for you. Can you help with some scans from Hayes, so I can think of a good structure for the section? Your suggestions are of course also welcome.So let's just start this, shall we? Peter