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Jeweller's Die i.n.o Muhammad Shah, Shahjahanabad mint
« on: October 09, 2011, 06:17:36 PM »
This is a coin die, do let me know if any one can identify it.?
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Re: Mughal coin die. please identify
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2011, 12:49:59 AM »
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Re: Mughal coin die. please identify
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2011, 06:35:33 AM »
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Re: Mughal coin die. please identify
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2011, 09:55:17 AM »
Hello, and welcome to WOC!
Using a mirror, I think,( and with somme reserve) that the legend refers to the mughal emperor Muhammad Shah.
(up - down) :" Muhammad Shah, Shah ghazi / sahib qiran sani / be Allah".
the two "i" of "ghazi" and "sani" make the separating lines.
It could be a medal or token or seal die ?

Better identification is still needed...
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Re: Mughal coin die. please identify
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2011, 11:00:56 AM »
Thanks Bernand, for this attribution. so in ur view this is not a coin die.?? yes some better identification is still needed for this.
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Re: Mughal coin die. please identify
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2011, 01:22:17 PM »
Dear Girish, The die is, as Saro already described, most probably in the name of Muhammad Shah. It is not an official die, but a jewellers die to make tokens. It is made after the common coins of Muhammad Shah Shahjahanabad mint (KM437.4), with the 'sahib qirani' legend.

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Re: Mughal coin die. please identify
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2011, 01:30:50 PM »
Of course, it could be a coin die; it's a little difficult to read the legend but I don't think that the ruler title includes the term "badshah" which is met on most of mughal issues, and at bottom the reference to "Allah" is unusual.
May be it is a die of a princely state?
What is the diameter?
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Re: Mughal coin die. please identify
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2011, 04:29:27 PM »
I struck a silver coin with this die... ;)

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Re: Mughal coin die. please identify
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2011, 04:52:39 PM »
Great, Peter. Now all you need is a reverse die with "Zarb Figleafabad"  :D

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Re: Mughal coin die. please identify
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2011, 05:58:00 PM »
Can I borrow your Overlordgarh die? :D

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Re: Mughal coin die. please identify
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2011, 06:15:45 PM »
Dear All

Every body is trying make there own die .

I have seen

1) Many dies, seal, mohur in Chor Bazaar in Mumbai. the dealer sell for just 500 rs to 1000 rs each but only thing is that cant read alphabet so i am interest in those.

2) One Big lock which was weighing some around 15 to 20 kg and Key of lock was palm size which was weigh about half a kg (App). (Hope that was Killa (Fort) lock.

3) One frame with british logo (Lion standing both the side) which was weighing around 5 Kg (App) I was interested in bying the same but the dealer asked me for 2500 Rs I would have buyed the same but one corner of the frame was broken still i have bargained and asked for 1000 rs but he agree to give for 2000 RS but i refused.

Should I collect this type of items

Comment and advice will be added to my knowledge.

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Re: Mughal coin die. please identify
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2011, 07:13:23 PM »
Hello Samir, Yes in the chor bazzar and in the exhibition many dies are sold but they are not of coins. i have seen them also.
2. yes u can get a big lock haveli lock here in rajasthan, we get many big locks here .
3. if u are a coin collector don't go in this antique collection without any knowledge of price. Generally everything is newly made and u will not able to check if its a new or old.
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Re: Mughal coin die. please identify
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2011, 07:21:21 PM »
Thanks Girish for your advice and concern.

I appreciate you views being a dealer you think about the collectors, so nice of you.

Samir

Hello Samir, Yes in the chor bazzar and in the exhibition many dies are sold but they are not of coins. i have seen them also.
2. yes u can get a big lock haveli lock here in rajasthan, we get many big locks here .
3. if u are a coin collector don't go in this antique collection without any knowledge of price. Generally everything is newly made and u will not able to check if its a new or old.
Regards
Girish,
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