An ingot made at the "Golden Triangle"?

Started by ZYV, May 31, 2012, 06:56:38 PM

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ZYV

I uploaded the photo on Zeno base more than two years ago.
There was only one opinion -  it is an ingot made at the Golden Triangle.
Is it right?
May be such objects were published somewhere?
My publications on numismatics and history of Golden Horde  https://independent.academia.edu/ZayonchkovskyYuru

akona20

Do you have a weight?

Perhpas Hmong wedding silver but I have not seen this type as such before. Certainly not Chinese Yuansi Sycee.

Figleaf

The nines probably indicate fineness, so an ingot is likely. I wish I could say something useful about the characters or the intriguing 8,4". The use of the comma indicates non-Anglo influence, which fits with the golden triangle. The big specialty of the golden triangle is drugs. South and East Asia have a tradition of imitation coins made for the drugs trade. The drugs trade has a tradition of gambling and gambling chips that could be used as drug lord money. That's a bout as far as I get.

Maybe a PM to those contributing heavily to the board on East-Asian coins will give you more information on the characters. Meanwhile, try finding a connection between the weight of the piece and the 8.4 in local weight units.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

ZYV

My publications on numismatics and history of Golden Horde  https://independent.academia.edu/ZayonchkovskyYuru

akona20

Okay the weight is given which can be worked on.

Trade in silver or as a payment presents interesting possibilities however the weight is rather low for anything of real consequence in such terms as a drug deal but perhaps I rest as bride money.

Chinasmith

I believe this is a modern fantasy item. The use of .999 to indicate fineness is very modern and originated in the western world. But coins were never made or marked .999 or .9999 (except for some modern pseudo-coins and bullion items). Near the fineness is what appears to be a shield or coat-of-arms -- also European in origin.  The other side of the piece appears to have a botched Chinese inscription. Looks like something invented to separate an unsuspecting collector from his money.
Researcher on coins, paper money and tokens of China.

ZYV

Quote from: Chinasmith on February 16, 2013, 06:28:19 AM
The other side of the piece appears to have a botched Chinese inscription. Looks like something invented to separate an unsuspecting collector from his money.
The object originates from an old collection of Soviet times.
Such scenario is not very probable for the time and place.

And one more point, 
dear Chinasmith can You demonstrate "brothers" & "sisters" of this fabrication?

Or only one piece was minted?
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