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Muhammad Shah, ½ Rupee, Mint: Surat, RY 12, KM#433.4
« on: June 12, 2011, 02:34:12 PM »
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No trace of mint - is it possible to tell from the caligraphy?
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Re: ½ Rupee
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2011, 04:51:36 PM »
The mint name on the coin will be Surat, but this not necessarily means that it was also struck there.

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Re: ½ Rupee
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2011, 09:40:47 PM »
Thanks :)
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Re: ½ Rupee, Surat
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2011, 06:55:44 AM »
I am trying to put my neck out but does the name of the ruler look like Ahmad Shah?

The RY date sees to be X2 or 2. If it is indeed X2, Ahmad Shah Can be ruled out. Muhammad Shah would be the only possibility. 

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Re: ½ Rupee, Surat
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2011, 09:10:34 PM »
Dear Amit, you seems to be right, the Ry. seems to consist of two digits and therefore ought to attributed to Muhammad Shah. In that case the mint would be Surat. It is only incase of some of the later rulers (viz.: Shah Jahan III, Shah Alam II) that coins of this type were struck at other places than Surat it self.
The exact Ry. on this coin is not clear, perhaps an enlargement of that part of the die may be provided.

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Re: ½ Rupee, Surat
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2011, 09:25:26 PM »
Most excellent teamwork, gentlemen!

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Re: ½ Rupee, Surat
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2011, 10:02:37 PM »


I think maybe 12?
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Re: ½ Rupee, Surat
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2011, 10:07:47 PM »
Yes, Ry. 12 that looks correct. Ref.: KM#433.4

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Re: ½ Rupee, Surat
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2011, 10:10:41 PM »
Thanks to both of you, I never thought I'd manage to understand that one. :)
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Re: ½ Rupee, Surat
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2011, 06:40:18 AM »
......... It is only incase of some of the later rulers (viz.: Shah Jahan III, Shah Alam II) that coins of this type were struck at other places than Surat it self.

Dear Oesho,

Did you mean the coins ino Shah Jahan III probably illegally struck at Bhaunagar and of Shah Alam II struck in Mumbai by the British with the mint name Surat? Were there any other instances other than these of coins with the mint name Surat struck in a place other than Surat?

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Re: Muhammad Shah, ½ Rupee, Mint: Surat, RY 12, KM#433.4
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2011, 06:42:56 AM »
No trace of mint - is it possible to tell from the caligraphy?

The mint mark is fairly clear and a pointer to the mint. In this case, the flower in the 'S' (Seen) of the word Julus.......

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Re: Muhammad Shah, ½ Rupee, Mint: Surat, RY 12, KM#433.4
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2011, 08:38:15 PM »
The mint mark is fairly clear and a pointer to the mint. In this case, the flower in the 'S' (Seen) of the word Julus.......

Amit

It's a long story, but I had this one under Surat until I was recently advised that it likely wasn't from there.
Didn't know which ruler it was though, thanks :)
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