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Offline kumarrahul

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Hi,

For Fiji, the thread indicates that Rafael Maklauf's portrait was used on Fiji coinage since 1986.
a) There is a note in wikipedia quoted as "Her portrait was updated to a more mature one, which was released in 2007, becoming the fourth portrait of the Queen to appear on Fijian currency. " Is this really true? I remember reading in a Fiji thread that the portrait on the 2009 coins bore the same portrait as new ones.
b) Guess the original thread can be updated from "1986 to current" to "1986 to 2011/2007?" since Fiji has decided to remove QEII portrait now.

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Re: Comments on "Portraits used on UK and Commonwealth decimal coins"
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2011, 02:41:28 PM »

Guess the original thread can be updated from "1986 to current" to "1986 to 2011/2007?" since Fiji has decided to remove QEII portrait now.


Welll, 2011 is current, and the Fijians recently released a dollar that still has the Queen's head on it:

Fiji: New $1 Coins

So we should wait until the actual event (expected summer 2012) before prompting andyg to update his topic.  ;)
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Re: Comments on "Portraits used on UK and Commonwealth decimal coins"
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2011, 02:44:43 PM »
For Fiji, the thread indicates that Rafael Maklauf's portrait was used on Fiji coinage since 1986.
a) There is a note in wikipedia quoted as "Her portrait was updated to a more mature one, which was released in 2007, becoming the fourth portrait of the Queen to appear on Fijian currency. " Is this really true? I remember reading in a Fiji thread that the portrait on the 2009 coins bore the same portrait as new ones.

Looking at the catalogues, Raphael Maklouf's portrait is still current on the Fijian coinage, and Ian Rank Broadley's portrait has never been used there.
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Re: Comments on "Portraits used on UK and Commonwealth decimal coins"
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2011, 07:25:49 PM »
The newer Fiji portrait is indeed slightly different,
It seems to have more detail added.
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Re: Comments on "Portraits used on UK and Commonwealth decimal coins"
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2011, 07:33:31 PM »
Are you sure that is not just down to wear on the older coin? Could you point out the areas you think are different?
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Re: Comments on "Portraits used on UK and Commonwealth decimal coins"
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2011, 08:06:34 PM »
try the earing and necklace.
The neckline is also at a different angle.
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Re: Comments on "Portraits used on UK and Commonwealth decimal coins"
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2011, 08:09:49 PM »
try the earing and necklace.

Yes, the necklace does seem to have smaller (or more) strands of beads on the newer version, and the earring is smaller on the newer version.

The neckline is also at a different angle.

This is harder to gauge because the two images are also at different angles.
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Re: Comments on "Portraits used on UK and Commonwealth decimal coins"
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2011, 09:03:17 PM »
Yes, the necklace does seem to have smaller (or more) strands of beads on the newer version, and the earring is smaller on the newer version.

This is harder to gauge because the two images are also at different angles.

Just like your 5p changes I looked and thought "oh, it is different, I'd never noticed that before" :)
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Re: Comments on "Portraits used on UK and Commonwealth decimal coins"
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2011, 09:27:35 PM »
The 5p changes are more totally big thing obvious, IMHO.  8)
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Re: Comments on "Portraits used on UK and Commonwealth decimal coins"
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2011, 09:45:37 PM »
The Fiji 2009 is different as this is the Royal Canadian Mint's die for this portrait....

It could be that things got re-done right back to the reducing stage for the portrait side of this coin (and others) - this is a size of coin with this portrait that RCM were doing before anyone else (New Zealand coins also to consider....).....

RCM did some Fiji coins in the original sizes (e.g. 5, 10 and 50 Cents) but those were is sizes that such as the British Royal mint were using.

The above does not fit perfectly - but I think it gives the right idea.

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