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Started by Md. Shariful Islam, June 06, 2011, 07:57:00 PM

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Md. Shariful Islam

I think I am doing something meaningless >:(. But here I give my observation.

Islam

Figleaf

#1
Maybe not. Maybe it's me, but the top of the crown looks different too. What are date and mint of the two coins? The reason I am asking for the dates/mints is that there are die differences usually described by the bottom panel of the dress.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

andyg

The writing looks closer to the rim on the coin on the right too.
always willing to trade modern UK coins for modern coins from elsewhere....

Afrasi

The right picture seems to show a fake.

Md. Shariful Islam

Quote from: Figleaf on June 06, 2011, 09:14:50 PM
Maybe not. Maybe it's me, but the top of the crown looks different too. What are date and mint of the two coins? The reason I am asking for the dates/mints is that there are die differences usually described by the bottom panel of the dress.

Peter

This is my frustration sir... You are great... I said what I do believe.
Both of the coins are 1887 Rupees. The left hand side is Calcutta and right hand side is Bombay. Victoria coins are differentiated into types by panels. But in this case I observe the lenght difference. I have around another 14 mature bust rupees of different time of both mints. In all those cases the length and shape is similar to the right hand one. The length has been different as in the coin at the left the back at the bottom has been curved back while the area is straight in other cases.

Islam

Md. Shariful Islam

Quote from: andyg on June 06, 2011, 09:16:21 PM
The writing looks closer to the rim on the coin on the right too.

Thanks. I missed that.

Islam

repindia

To me these look like the obverse "Type A" on the left and the other obverse "Type C" and so the difference.

Md. Shariful Islam

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Quote from: repindia on June 07, 2011, 07:58:46 AM
To me these look like the obverse "Type A" on the left and the other obverse "Type C" and so the difference.

Thanks. I appreciate your comment as I see that the left one is 'Type A' as it has 3.75 pannel in the front dress while the right hand is 'Type C' as it has 3.33 pannel in the front dress.

But the bottom of the back has been curved back (rounded) in the left coin while the area is pretty straight in even 'Type A and C'. Compare the picture here (http://britishcoins.indian-coins.com/swish_anim/1_rs_obv_a.html). This feature creates the difference in length. I am greedy to call it a new variant.

But probably its not. The shape which I am indicating is available in Type B. But Type B has different design in the dress. The picture of Type B is here (http://britishcoins.indian-coins.com/swish_anim/1_rs_obv_b.html).

I see the coin has a mix of shape of bust of Type B and the design of the dress of Type A.

Islam

Islam

repindia

I did look at some of my examples of type A and they look to be like the one which you illustrated -- along with the rounded back.

I am not a big fan of minor varieties anyway and believe these are mostly promoted by dealers as a sales promotion tool. I collect it as a different type only if it is noticeable with a naked eye. There would have been many different dies for this obverse in almost a quarter century of minting and there are bound to be varieties.

Md. Shariful Islam

Quote from: repindia on June 10, 2011, 04:50:22 AM
I did look at some of my examples of type A and they look to be like the one which you illustrated -- along with the rounded back.

I am not a big fan of minor varieties anyway and believe these are mostly promoted by dealers as a sales promotion tool. I collect it as a different type only if it is noticeable with a naked eye. There would have been many different dies for this obverse in almost a quarter century of minting and there are bound to be varieties.

I agree with you. This is a minor variation. Not that much significant... so meaningless.

Islam

malj1

Victoria's back hair is very different too, the 'bun'.
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

Md. Shariful Islam

Quote from: malj1 on June 10, 2011, 09:37:53 AM
Victoria's back hair is very different too, the 'bun'.
I'm afraid, I cannot locate the difference. Would you please elaborate the difference that u notice. Thanks.

Islam

malj1

A zoomed-in image shows the tighter bun in the second coin

 
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.