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Offline Ukrainii Pyat

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The Swedish Plate Money Type Set...
« on: June 03, 2011, 10:24:20 PM »
I bought this bad boy about 10-11 years ago on that great online fleaMarket for a mere pittance - it started a pursuit:



Sweden had minted "Plate Money" from 1644 until 1776. This huge and cumbersome coinage was necessitated both by a lack of silver, and an overabundance of copper in Sweden. Coins were issued in denominations of 1/2 Daler on up to the monster 10 Daler coin. The Daler had a value of 1/3 of a Riksdaler, which was equivalent of a Swedish Silver Dollar. These coins were not popular from the moment they were first introduced, both because of their sheer size and the weight. Any sum of them constituted a considerable effort to move around. An early account of a bank robbery in Stockholm notes that the thieves took all money except that which was in plate money, because of the effort involved in hauling it away. The largest of these pieces issued were the 10 Daler coins during the 17th century. These measured 13" by 25" and weighed in at 44lbs each.

The above coin was minted in 1716, during the reign of Charles XII. During this time Sweden was fighting the Northern War with Russia for control of the eastern Baltic, and Finland. This war was devastating to the Swedish economy and the resultant shortage of funds necessitated a token coinage which was even more unpopular than the plate money. The Government minister whom initiated this token coinage, Baron Georg Heinrich von Goertz, subsequently lost his head, largely because of the financial mess he created in his effort to fund the costly war with Russia.

Then a couple of years later I picked up the 2 Daler from 1728:



In 1718, the reign of Charles XII was ended at a battle in outside of Kristiana in Norway. Charles's sister, Ulrika Eleanora inherited the throne, which subsequently was passed onto her husband, Frederik Duke of Hesse. This particular coin was issued during his reign, which lasted from 1720-51.

The demise of plate money in 1776 basically rendered the money worthless except as scrap metal. The greater majority of these coins were subsequently called in, and sold for scrap. They were useful as ballast, so they were loaded deep into the holds of ships travelling to the Far East, where they were thence unloaded and sold as scrap to merchants in Asia. One such ship travelling to the Far East was sunk in a storm in the 1780's off of South Africa. The "Nicobar" was laden with these coins. Most of the plate money available today came from this shipwreck. Any other, non sea salvage, plate money, such as the two above pieces are now quite scarce.

But after that, the supply seemed to dry up - when I saw examples they were in very well publicised auctions with many other pieces and garnered ridiculous prices.  Until last month, when I finally accomplished the enormous 4 Daler, and a very nice example with excellent stamps:



As ridiculous as the 1 and 2 daler coins were, the 4 daler coin is impractically large and heavy. Imagine taking one of these to the market to buy vegetables or cloth. This piece measures an impressive 237 x 241 millimetres and weighs 2946 grammes or 6.5 lbs. As with the others on this page, it is a very challenging piece in an original not shipwreck effected condition.

Generally there is not a whole lot to see on the reverse of plate money - usually devoid of stamps etc. But this particular piece is a bit different in that in a couple of the corners there are traces of stamps that were subsequently rolled over again with the large metal roller they used to roll out the copper for these.
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Re: The Swedish Plate Money Type Set...
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2011, 02:18:45 AM »
Wow, what a collection!

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Re: The Swedish Plate Money Type Set...
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2011, 10:37:22 AM »
That's a collector's dream. Great stuff! Glad you didn't decide you needed the 10 daler coin. With a weight of 20 kilos, it beats the manhole covers. :)

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Re: The Swedish Plate Money Type Set...
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2017, 01:14:39 AM »
Sadly the photos are missing from the original post. I'd like to have seen them.  :(

Here's my latest acquisition, 1746 1 daler, PM#28. This one's made from cannon bronze. I don't think it's marine salvage but I don't know if bronze is affected by seawater in the same way as copper.  :-\

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Re: The Swedish Plate Money Type Set...
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2017, 10:11:17 AM »
Nice!

I would like to add a plåtmynt to my collection, even more so given where I live, but they're all way outside my budget.

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Re: The Swedish Plate Money Type Set...
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2017, 11:14:12 AM »
Sadly the photos are missing from the original post. I'd like to have seen them.  :(

That's what happens when members are irresponsible.

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Re: The Swedish Plate Money Type Set...
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2017, 01:22:39 PM »
Nice!

I would like to add a plåtmynt to my collection, even more so given where I live, but they're all way outside my budget.

I don't think I'll ever manage the 2 or 4 daler unless I get very lucky indeed.

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Re: The Swedish Plate Money Type Set...
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2017, 02:09:52 PM »
I got very lucky indeed.  :)

PM#74. 3122g, approx 2420mm x 2230mm.