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Unidentified tokens / Re: Dokaeby token with Asian dragon
« Last post by Figleaf on March 31, 2020, 01:13:24 PM »
I bet batting was meant as betting. It fits batter. :)

Peter
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Unidentified tokens / Re: masaroedise ? - one
« Last post by Figleaf on March 31, 2020, 01:12:05 PM »
I agree with Paris. I don't think it is Latin script. Also, you may be reading the letters upside down.

Peter
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Unidentified tokens / Re: masaroedise ? - one
« Last post by malj1 on March 31, 2020, 01:09:54 PM »
Yes Maybe but my one is clearer and has a P rather than O = masarpe dise this give even better porn results going straight to chatterbate.
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Princely States and Independent kingdoms / Re: dating Jodhpur 1/4 annas
« Last post by Figleaf on March 31, 2020, 01:07:07 PM »
I don't claim any expertise on these coins. Looking at the pictures of KM 141 and 142 in KM, I see that the date is at the very top of the reverse. On your coins, that area is off-flan, in other words, your coins show more of the lower part of the die. Therefore, your coins cannot be dated. Your only chance is to find a coin struck with the same reverse die, but showing the upper part.

Differences on these coins are normal. The dies were cut by hand.

Peter
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Unidentified tokens / Re: masaroedise ? - one
« Last post by Paris on March 31, 2020, 12:54:48 PM »
I am not sure it is latin alphabet. It rather looks like malay in old Palembang coins (Kawi or Arabic script ?).
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Unidentified tokens / Re: masaroedise ? - one
« Last post by malj1 on March 31, 2020, 12:49:02 PM »
It may be a bad word, Google translate says its Indonesian but won't translate. A further search with Indonesia added gets porn results. Maybe a brothel token? ???

I believe I have one or two the same somewhere.
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Unidentified tokens / Re: Dokaeby token with Asian dragon
« Last post by malj1 on March 31, 2020, 12:31:13 PM »
I'm convinced its from Korea as the other very similar types all state Korea or Corea. Numista are often incorrect when it comes to tokens.

I see one seller has put bathing instead of Batting and all other google results are blindly following this too.

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Unidentified tokens / masaroedise ? - one
« Last post by jezuss on March 31, 2020, 12:04:34 PM »
token with difficult to read text.
looks like masaroe'dise'
21.5 mm brass
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Unidentified tokens / Re: Dokaeby token with Asian dragon
« Last post by jezuss on March 31, 2020, 11:52:04 AM »
here is the reverse of a dokaeby token.
maybe that helps...
24.2 mm nickel plated iron
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Mughal central government / Re: Shah Jahan - half dam surat, Post confinement issue
« Last post by Figleaf on March 31, 2020, 11:44:34 AM »
This highly interesting discussing highlights that there are two general issues at play here:

- When does a new ruler come to power? Possibilities are the day of death, abdication or deposition of the former ruler, the day of proclamation/khutba or the day of coronation?

- In whose name are the coins issued in an interregnum?

There should not be a separate set of rules for India.

Some examples to illustrate these questions.

- In 69 AD, there were four claimants for the imperial title of Rome: Galba, Otho, Vitellius and Vespasianus. A domestic war decided in favour of Vespasianus. During most of the year, Vitellius was master of Rome, though. Historians tend to consider that Vespasianus' term started with the death of Vitellius. All four were declared emperor. The coins are considered to be in the name of whoever is on the coin.

- Edward VIII was king of Great Britain from 20 January 1936 until his abdication in favour of George VI on 11 December of that year. Coins in his name were issued for a number of British colonies, some after his abdication. There is no succession question. All the coins with the name of Edward VIII on them are considered issued in his name.

My tentative conclusions are that the questions above are answered as:

- A ruler comes to power when there is no more resistance of other claimants to his succession. A prisoner or dead person cannot offer such resistance. Proclamation and coronation are evidence, but are not decisive.

- Coins are considered to be issued by whoever's name is on the coin.

Go ahead. Shoot at my conclusions.

Peter
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