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USA / Re: US uncirculated Dollar Coins
« Last post by gpimper on September 20, 2020, 10:51:48 PM »
Considering Hoover's character that's probably not a bad call!  He was a colorful guy-Texan through and through.  We have neighbors like that around our property down south.  Nice folks but you'd better have a thick skin  ;D

I thought this was an interesting link...https://www.military.com/history/29-american-presidents-from-military.html
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Islamic world / Re: Id request - Amirs of Andaraba
« Last post by Manzikert on September 20, 2020, 10:30:11 PM »
According to Mitchiner the obverse top and bottom marginal inscriptions name Al Harith (top) bin Harb (bottom) and your coin appears to be his KB7 from Badakshan not Anderabah.

I have looked through the SNAT volume for Badakshan (XIVc) and it appears to be the same dies as no. 272, attributed to Mansur ibn Nuh with al-Harith ibn HB, mint Kurat Badakshan. The Tubingen specimen is 45 mm and 17.69 gm

Alan
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That would explain why I got 10p change as a 5p and five 1p a while ago

Most efficiently you should have got two 5ps. I presume the machines keep "an eye" on how much of each denomination they have left in their containers and give out "inefficient" combinations if they are running low on a given denomination.
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USA / Re: US uncirculated Dollar Coins
« Last post by Figleaf on September 20, 2020, 08:52:56 PM »
A ... uhhh ... colourful person. Most famous LBJ quote (on Edgar Hoover): "It’s probably better to have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in." quoted in The New York Times, 31 October 1971. This has become one of diplomacy's most used adages on difficult characters.

Much more and not all on this level here.

Peter
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If you are restricted to only using four out of the eight  because of the limitations of the hardware, the most efficient denominations to choose are 1p, 5p, 20p and £1.
That would explain why I got 10p change as a 5p and five 1p a while ago (I happened to have a £10 note on me and the transaction came to £9.90, so I assumed I’d get a 10p back).  I promptly got rid of the coins the following week in the same machines - what’s good about them is you can rid yourself of change and pay the rest by card. 

Again, that’s an experience that puts me off using cash.
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USA / Re: US uncirculated Dollar Coins
« Last post by gpimper on September 20, 2020, 07:40:11 PM »
#36...LBJ.  His heart was in the right place.  2015-P, 7.84 million minted.  https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/presidents/lyndon-b-johnson/
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Yes, you never get 2p or £2 coins in change from those self scan machines, 
It's a while since I last put change in one!
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..............and just when you thought the beach was safe for a swim! BEWARE of the JAWS !!!

Ancient India, Saurashtra Janapada, 450-300 BC, Silver Punch Mark Coin (PMC), 1/4th Karshapana, 0.91g, 18mm, unlisted

Obv: Shark in centre surrounded by ancillary symbols viz taurine, triskelion and a hollow circle in front; overstruck on a prior specimen with portions of undertype visible

Rev: Rabbit / Hare / Pup jumping over a crescent moon with a bold Swastika in front and ancillary surrounding symbols viz hollow circle with a dot; rectangle with a pair of opposite facing fish? etc.

This is a remarkable coin with the first known representation of a Shark on an Indian PMC. The punch of the Shark is typologically very accurate with snout; the prominent dorsal fin at the top; the pectoral, pelvic and anal fin at bottom; and the split caudal tail fin.

The Saurashtra region is part of peninsular Gujarat with it being bound on the south & south-west by the Arabian Sea; on the north-west by the Gulf of Kutch & on the east by the Gulf of Khambhat or Cambay. The occurrence of sharks in such a peninsular coastal region flanked by sea and Gulfs would be common, especially 2400 years back!

This 'shark' coin type has only emerged recently being hitherto unknown and are quite rare! The type is unlisted in major catalogs viz Mitchiner, Rajgor or P. Anne van't Haaff. The previous known listed types in various catalogs include symbols such as hill, tree, bull, elephant, srivatsa, swastika, turtle, seated goddess (Laxmi), temple etc. The 'shark' type surfaced only last year (2019) from the Hiran riverbank at Verawal near Somnath temple in Gujarat. Approx 150 coins were found in the hoard, of which the shark type accounted for approx 38-40 pcs, as per information provided to me from source.

Like most others PMC coins from Saurashtra, they are also overstruck (o/s) or restruck on prior specimen. The o/s makes commercial sense when the mint needs to cater to a large volume of requirement fast, the likes of which can be expected at a bustling coastal port region like Saurashtra with ships visiting to-and-fro for trade ; or where the ruler wishes to save on raw material cost of preparing a new coin blank; or where the intent is simply to obliterate the prior ruler/dynasties issues for personal or political expediency!

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I was having a similar discussion on another (non-numismatic) forum, and someone suggested that the automatic checkout machines used by supermarkets are made by a US company with the US market and coinage system in mind. The US has in practice only four circulating denominations, whereas the UK has eight. If you are restricted to only using four out of the eight  because of the limitations of the hardware, the most efficient denominations to choose are 1p, 5p, 20p and £1.

Now, I've no idea if it's true that these machines are made in the US or whether they are imported to the UK without modifications that allow more denominations. But if it is the case, this may explain why £1s are favoured over £2s despite the apparent illogicality discussed above.
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Unidentified coins / Re: Any idea about this Indian coin?
« Last post by asm on September 20, 2020, 04:39:12 PM »
Would you mind cleaning the coin a bit? I think the lower image reads Alamgir at the top. Below and the reverse is not very clear.

Amit
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