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Modern coins, pseudo coins and trade tokens of other continents => Sub-Saharan Africa => East Africa => Topic started by: Figleaf on November 20, 2009, 11:30:24 AM

Title: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Figleaf on November 20, 2009, 11:30:24 AM
Draft constitution: Kenya currency to exclude portraits
By JEVANS NYABIAGE, Posted Wednesday, November 18 2009 at 13:43

Kenya’s coins and notes will not bear the portrait of any individual if the proposals in the new harmonised draft Constitution of Kenya are adopted.

The Committee of Experts, in a draft Constitution released on Tuesday, propose, "Notes and coins issued by the Central Bank of Kenya may bear images that depict or symbolise Kenya or an aspect of Kenya but may not bear the portrait of any individual."

This means that former presidents Jomo Kenyatta and Daniel Moi will be the only last personalities to have had portraits on the Kenyan currency.

Kenyans have a month to make their contributions on what they think of the proposals before changes are made to the draft constitution.

A referendum is scheduled for early march next year.

If the referendum agrees to adopt the constitution, it will see the Central Bank governor hold office for a term of six years and not be eligible for re-appointment.

The Central Bank board members appointed by the president with approval of the National Assembly, will hold office for five years and only be eligible for appointment for one further and final term.

Currently, the governor and other Central Bank’s board of directors hold office for a term of four years and are eligible for reappointment once and not more than two terms.

The history of Kenyan currency dates back to 1966, when the Central Bank of Kenya issued notes in denominations of Sh5, Sh10, Sh20, Sh50 and Sh100.

The Sh5 notes were replaced by coins in 1985, with the same happening to Sh10 and Sh20 in 1994 and 1998.

In 1986, Sh200 notes were introduced, followed by Sh500 shillings in 1988 and Sh1,000 in 1994.

Kenya’s first President Jomo Kenyatta appeared on the banknotes issued until 1978, with President Daniel Moi’s portrait replacing him in 1980.

In 2003, after President Mwai Kibaki replaced Moi, Sh5, Sh10, and Sh20 notes from the 1978 series with Kenyatta’s picture that had been in storage were issued, and circulated for a time.

A new series of notes was then introduced on which Kenyatta reappeared with denominations of Sh50, Sh100, Sh200, Sh500 and Sh1,000.

The issue of December 12, 2003 commemorates the '40 years of Independence 1963-2003'.

The banknotes are printed in Nairobi by De La Rue.

Source: Daily Nation (http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/-/1006/687788/-/item/0/-/a2j0ph/-/index.html)
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Post by: Galapagos on November 20, 2009, 01:29:36 PM
Kenyan coin designs are of course as lacking in merit as their politicians. Perhaps we will get some decent wildlife designs at long last, to keep us European coin collectors happy.
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Post by: Figleaf on November 20, 2009, 11:13:24 PM
Frankly, I think taking the politicians off the coins is a sign of political maturing, something African countries could use. Animals on coins? Why not? Just about anything is better than dead maffia bosses calling themselves president, or, even worse, live maffia bosses calling themselves president.

Peter
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Post by: Zantetsuken on December 05, 2009, 04:50:04 PM
Frankly, I think taking the politicians off the coins is a sign of political maturing, something African countries could use. Animals on coins? Why not? Just about anything is better than dead maffia bosses calling themselves president, or, even worse, live maffia bosses calling themselves president.

Peter

lol> I agree Peter. It's not just in African nations unfortunately. Take Turkmenistan for example (sorry if it seems that I'm changing the subject). President: Sapurmurat Niyazov has his image on just about every coin or note issued since he took power. Even Kim Jong Il of North Korea doesn't do this, and he is one of the biggest ego-maniacs there are. This proposal for Kenya sounds like a good one, and maybe a good example for other nations as well, Africa and abroad. This is just my opinion though.

~Daniel.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Galapagos on December 05, 2009, 04:54:10 PM
Yes, even as World Dictator I have no desire to place my beauteous image on a coin. Niyazov died three years ago, incidentally. One of his favourite punishments was to boil his political enemies alive. He must have watched too many James Bond movies...
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Post by: Zantetsuken on December 05, 2009, 05:03:25 PM
Yes, even as World Dictator I have no desire to place my beauteous image on a coin. Niyazov died three years ago, incidentally. One of his favourite punishments was to boil his political enemies alive. He must have watched too many James Bond movies...

Wow! I must be getting behind on my current events. I wasn't aware that Niyazov died. I do however, remember hearing about him boiling his enemies alive. Obiously not all of his spark plugs were firing. I loved your last line. Either Niyazov was watching either too Bond movies, or slasher flicks. Still a scary man none the less.

~Daniel
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Post by: Bimat on March 09, 2012, 04:26:32 AM
Kenya currency set for new look

Thursday, 08 March 2012 00:16 BY LOLA OKULO

THE Central Bank of Kenya is seeking a new image for the local currency's notes and coins in adherence to the current constitution which is against the use of an individual's picture on Kenyan money. CBK yesterday called for proposals on designs whose themes reflect a new chapter in Kenya's history in light of the new constitution and depict the country's prosperity as outlined in Vision 2030. The public has until April 13, to present its proposals on the new currency.

Article 231(4) of the constitution states that notes and coins issued by the CBK may bear images that depict of symbolize an aspect of Kenya but shall not bear any individual's portrait. Kenya started minting its own currency in 1966 with the initial denominations all bearing former president Jomo Kenyatta's portrait.

“The Central Bank hereby invites individuals, institutions, institutions, organizations and professional bodies to present in writing, proposals on elements/features to be considered for incorporation in the design of the proposed new Kenyan currency banknotes and coins,” said the CBK in a statement published yesterday in a local daily.

CBK is looking for designs that include dominant physical features that reflect any aspect of the country like agriculture, sports and tourism among others. Proposed designs should also be able to portray the nation's natural treasures, culture and heritage or include flora and fauna unique to Kenya, said the banking industry regulator. Current denominations of banknotes and coins in circulation are 5cent, 10 cent, 50 cent, 1 shilling, 5 shilling, 10 shilling, 20 shilling and 40 shilling coins and in note form; 50 shilling, 100 shilling, 200 shilling, 500 shilling and 1,000 shilling. Each denomination has a portrait of either Kenyatta or immediate former president Daniel Arap Moi at the front and a unique natural resource or economic activity theme at the back.

The last new denomination and currency design was introduced the 40-shilling coin in 2003 which had a portrait of President Mwai Kibaki despite him having said he will not change currency images to put his picture on money when he took over presidency in 2002. The Sh40 coin was introduced then in commemoration of 40 years of independence. In its quest for a new design, CBK has emphasized that: “the design elements must be unique to Kenya, attractive, socially acceptable and culturally relevant while creating harmony among Kenyans.”

Despite the introduction of the new look currency, the old currency in use before the new law was implemented will still be used as legal tender. This is in line with Sixth schedule (Article 262), section 34 of the Constitution. It states : “Nothing in Article 231 (4) affects the validity of coins and currency notes issued before the effective date.

Source: The Star (http://www.the-star.co.ke/business/local/65960-kenya-currency-set-for-new-look)
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Post by: augsburger on March 10, 2012, 07:09:22 AM
Any idea where you can see the actual thing for the design?
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Pabitra on May 15, 2015, 08:37:31 AM
Any news about new look coin series?

The constitutional mandate expired today.

OR is it Who is bothered about the law situation, which prevails in third world countries?
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: haaseizhere on May 29, 2015, 11:18:31 AM
They are still printing money dated 2010 and using coins with the date of 2010 on them.  I guess they feel this meets the requirements as long as there is no new date after the new constitution they feel they meet what the constitution states.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on July 08, 2015, 04:58:45 PM
On November 4, 2014 the tender for mints to qualify for minting the new coins closed so I suppose that the coins are currently being minted and will be unveiled and released later this year.
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Post by: Pabitra on July 08, 2015, 05:35:59 PM
What is the status of common currency zone of East African Union, which was also planning to implement the accord this year?
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Post by: Bimat on September 07, 2015, 07:17:52 AM
Kenya: Follow the Law On New Kenyan Currency

4 SEPTEMBER 2015

OPINION

By Emman Omari

Seven Kenyans, led by one Muchiri Mithamo, have this week petitioned Parliament not to allow the removal of founding President Mzee Jomo Kenyatta's portrait from the national currency.

National Assembly Speaker Justin Muturi forwarded the petition to the Finance Committee.

Let us not pretend. This is another attempt by conservative forces to slow down the implementation of the Constitution.

Article 231 (4) of the Constitution states: "Notes and coins issued by the Central Bank of Kenya may bear images that depict or symbolise Kenya or an aspect of Kenya but shall not bear the portrait of any individual."

At independence the East African Shilling, notes and coins, bore the portrait of King George VI and his successor Queen Elizabeth II. The East African Currency Board had agreed on a common currency for the region.

But all this changed on June 10, 1965 when Tanzanian, then Ugandan Finance ministers announced in their Budget speeches that they will print their own currency notes with the portraits of their leaders.

This news came in as Kenya's Finance minister James Gichuru was reading the Budget. Mr Gichuru immediately went off the written text and told MPs amid applause: "We are also going to mint ours bearing the portrait of our founding President Mzee Jomo Kenyatta." The new currency was issued in 1966 and for 15 years, it was in the pockets of Kenyans.

When President Daniel arap Moi took power in 1978, Mzee Kenyatta's portrait was replaced by his.

The biggest mistake this time round was that the new regime hardly gave enough time for transition from one currency to the other.

ARBITRARY CHANGES

When President Mwai Kibaki took power in 2003, Kenyans were shocked when some of the old Kenyatta notes returned into circulation alongside the Moi currency. Like in the aftermath of 1978, the Moi currency later disappeared.

These arbitrary changes is what motivated Article 231 of the Constitution.

Indeed Muchiri may have a point that Kenyatta was a symbol of national unity. But their fears could well be accommodated as the CBK Governor is allowed some discretionary powers to retain Kenyatta's statue at KICC at the back of the current Sh100 note as this does not meet the definition of a portrait.

It would be in line with worldwide trends in which the statue of Mustafa Kamal Ataturk, the founder of modern Turkey and the Statue of Liberty in New York are revered in their countries.

The US one dollar note has founding President George Washington while Tanzania's TSH1,000 has Julius Nyerere on the face. The pyramids in Egypt and the statue of Kwame Nkrumah, Ghana's founding father are part of their national heritage.

In weighing the objects of Muchiri's petition, Parliament's Finance Committee ought to be alive to four factors. Whether Kenyans desires as stipulated in the supreme law can be trashed by seven individuals; the risk of setting a precedent for future regimes to change currency at will; entrenching double standards in the manner of doing business in future; and, Parliament's credibility.

In my view, the country should ignore these sideshows and move on with the implementation of the Constitution.

Source: All Africa (http://allafrica.com/stories/201509060126.html)
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Pabitra on September 26, 2015, 07:11:10 AM
Any idea where you can see the actual thing for the design?

Hopefully next week.

See
http://allafrica.com/stories/201509251181.html
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Post by: Bimat on October 12, 2015, 04:53:20 PM
Treasury to unveil new currency next week

By Carol Njenga

You will on Tuesday next week have a glimpse of how the new currency will look like.

National Treasury Cabinet Secretary Henry Rotich says the government has finalized preparations for the new currency whose features would be unveiled on Tuesday next week.

Article 231 section 4 of the Constitution prohibits the use of portraits or images of individuals on the currency and instead says notes and coins should only bear images that depict or symbolize an aspect of Kenya.

Central Bank of Kenya was given until the beginning of this month to adhere to this.

Rotich says despite the delay details of the new design of the local currency are now ready and would be unveiled next week.

He made the remarks during the launch of the CBK@50 celebrations, the first in a series of activities running for one year and culminating in celebrations slated for September, 2016 when CBK turns 50.

CBK Governor Dr. Patrick Njoroge said going forward the bank would endeavor to promote transparency in the pricing of loans as well as improve the monetary policy transmission to the real sector.

He challenged financial sector players to include youth programmes in their business models to help nurture financial literacy among the youth.

Source: KBC (http://www.kbc.co.ke/treasury-to-unveil-new-currency-features-next-week/)
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on October 12, 2015, 04:56:13 PM
Unfortunately the article is a few weeks old and no new currency has been shown. All questions relating to the new currency are being ignored. Allegedly the busts are going to be replaced by typical Kenyan vegetation.
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Post by: Pabitra on November 06, 2015, 06:24:57 AM
No news still for new designs
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on March 16, 2016, 08:02:58 PM
Accoring to the Central Bank of Kenya, the new notes and coins are sheduled to be released September 2017.
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Post by: Pabitra on March 16, 2016, 09:39:51 PM
And when is final decision on East African Economic Union common currency due to be taken?
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Post by: eurocoin on April 25, 2017, 11:26:19 PM
The Central Bank of Kenya is clearly seriously preparing for the new currency series. They recently ordered several coin crushing machines and found a mint and a printer to produce the new coins. Sources close to The Royal Mint hint at the fact that RM is involved in the production of the new coins.  Although the Royal Mint has always been making Kenya's coins, for the first time a tender was held by the Central Bank of Kenya. The results of the tender were never published nor was the central bank willing to provide any further information. The notes will be made at De La Rue in Nairobi.

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Post by: Bimat on September 24, 2017, 08:00:22 AM
Central Bank Disowns New Currency Circulating on Social Media

By David Koech
Friday, 22 Sep 2017 06:55AM

One week ago, activist Okiya Omtatah gave Central Bank governor Patrick Njoroge 7 days to remove the face of Jomo Kenyatta from all Kenyan bank notes. According to the 2010 constitution, our currency should have images that depict certain aspects of Kenya, and not faces of individuals.

The Central Bank has however failed to implement this requirement since the promulgation of the constitution in 2010. But the CBK governor has now reportedly committed to setting the ball rolling on the design and production of the new currency.

For the past few days, images of the new proposed currency have been doing rounds on social media. It is unclear where they came from, but the Central Bank has denied officially releasing the new designs.

The attention to detail can only possibly have come from the CBK, and its likely some staff members let the cat out before time.

All denominations have so far made their way online, namely Sh50 containing a buffalo, the Sh100 note which contains a leopard, Sh200 note which contains two rhinos, Sh 500 note that contains a lion and the Sh1000 note which appropriately contains an elephant.

This completes the Big 5.

But some funny characters think the 50 shilling note should contain a picture of our traffic police officers. Well, it is their favourite tool of work, so why not.

Or perhaps paying homage to the ‘real Kenyan heroes’, Team Mafisi.

All in all, we will have to wait for the final Central Bank confirmation before we know how our new currency will look like.

Source: Nairobi Wire (http://nairobiwire.com/2017/09/central-bank-disowns-new-currency-circulating-social-media.html)
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on October 01, 2017, 03:42:11 PM
Kenyan activist Okiyah Omtatah has sued the Central Bank of Kenya to force it to obey to the Kenyan constitution and so to release the new notes and coins which do not depict the portrait of the president. He had given them 7 days to issue the new currency after which he threatened to sue them. After the Central Bank ignored his demand, he now puts his money where his mouth is.

The Kenyan High Court has classed the case as urgent and a matter of priority. In the case Mr Omtatah will try to force the government to issue the new coins and notes within 180 days. Further information on this is expected on October 11.

When asked earlier this week, the Central Bank of Kenya and the Treasury were both unable to provide a(n) (estimated) date of issuance of the new currency.

Kenya changed its constitution 7 years ago to ban the use of images of people on legal tender. It has so far however always ignored this rule. 
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on November 16, 2017, 01:35:11 PM
De La Rue and De La Rue Kenya EPZ Ltd. have both moved to the Kenyan High Court to stop the Central Bank of Kenya's tender for the printing of the banknotes of the new currency series.

For the last 25 years the Central Bank of Kenya always used De La Rue in Nairobi to print their notes. Central Bank of Kenya has this time held an international tender.

In the documents that De La Rue sent to the court, the company refers to the Kenyan Public Procurement and Asset Disposal Act which stipulates under section 157 (9) that in every tender there should be a mandatory requirement that at least 40% of the supplies has to be sourced from citizen contractors. The current tender does not include such requirement. According to De La Rue the tender would in its current form do irreparable harm to the local industry.

De La Rue furthermore mentioned that "The law requires all public bodies including CBK to conduct a procurement process that is fair, equitable, transparent, and competitive and cost-effectiveness." According to De La Rue the procurement process is unfair and illegal because there was no justification for issuance of an international tender when the CBK was fully aware of the fact that the company has, for the last 25 years, been printing money and producing currency banknotes in Ruaraka, Nairobi.

The firm also stated that the CBK has invited tenders from foreign tenderers by use of tender documents that do not comply with the mandatory requirements of the constitution.

It is unknown to what extend this is going to influence the production of the new currency as the tender process will be completed and the tender will be awarded before this comes before the court. They had requested the tender process to be halted during the pendency of the legal proceedings but the judge has refused this.
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Post by: Bimat on November 25, 2017, 07:35:40 AM
Kenya to get new look notes and coins by June 2018

By Otiato Guguyu | Published Sat, November 25th 2017 at 00:00, Updated November 24th 2017 at 22:51 GMT +3

Kenya will get new currency by June next year after the Central Bank moved to contract international companies to design and print notes and mint coins.

CBK Governor Patrick Njoroge said they will issue new notes and coins between April and June next year.

“Our expectations according to timelines are to issue the currency in the second quarter of 2018,” Dr Njoroge said yesterday at a press briefing.

According to court papers filed by British firm De La Rue to stop the process, CBK issued an international tender on October 24 this year with bids opened to select a winner on Wednesday this week.

CBK in replies filed, however, claimed it invited bidders on July 8, 2014 through an advertisement in the dailies.

De la Rue has challenged supply of new design notes claiming CBK locked it out of the tender after it prequalified international firms.

The firm claimed the apex bank should have first established if the currency could be printed locally before it went shopping abroad.

De La Rue, which has been printing Kenyan currency for the past 25 years, also argued that offshoring printing posed a risk while it is safer to print in Ruaraka, Nairobi where currency is also destroyed.

It should have set conditions for technology supply and required the international firm to acquire 40 per cent of supplies locally.

“We are moving ahead with production and issuance which is consistent with the constitution, the CBK Act and other laws,” Njoroge said.

CBK told the court that there are no local firms that can print new currency notes in accordance to its specifications.

The banking sector regulator told the court that due to the complex nature of currency production, materials are imported.

CBK also denied using De La Rue to destroy old bank notes adding that the exercise is done without any involvement of any printer.

It also explained that many countries do not have local banknotes printers and the same does not breach their security.

Source: Standard Media (https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2001261187/kenya-to-get-new-look-notes-and-coins-by-june-2018)
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Post by: eurocoin on December 31, 2017, 04:30:16 PM
The drama continues..

Central Bank Kenya now suddenly wants to appoint De La Rue as the printer of the new notes. In a strange turn activist Okiya Omtatah has now moved to court to prevent De La Rue from being appointed as supplier of the new notes. As can be read a few messages up in this topic, Mr Omtatah is also involved in a court case in which he demands the Central Bank of Kenya to issue the new currency as soon as possible.

According to Mr Omtatah the bid of De La Rue to print the currency is far from the cheapest. According to him American Crane & Company and French firm Oberthur Fiduciaire both quoted a better price. Furthermore he remarked that the security features that De La Rue is planning to use can deter counterfeiting as they are worse than the ones used in the EUR, USD, GBP and even the Uganda shilling notes. According to the Central Bank of Kenya, mr Omtatah has obtained evidence he filed to court illegally and they have asked the court to not take it into consideration.

The court has for now frozen the appointment of a winner of CBK's printing tender which will cause delay in the rollout of the new currency.

Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Figleaf on December 31, 2017, 05:52:55 PM
Translation: officials wanted a huge bribe and De La Rue balked, believing they could not be circumvented, having a plant in Kenya. The corrupt officials called their bluff and De La Rue paid up, working the bribe into their price for printing the notes.

Kenya is one of the most corrupt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Kenya) countries in the world. Mr. Omtatah is lucky to have high name recognition. Yet, once he is perceived as going too far or being too successful, he may die mysteriously anyway.

Peter
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Post by: Pabitra on December 31, 2017, 06:27:50 PM
All this drama pertains to notes.

Why are the coins getting delayed?
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Post by: eurocoin on December 31, 2017, 06:49:23 PM
All this drama pertains to notes.

Why are the coins getting delayed?

As far as I know the general idea at all times has been that the entire generation of new currency was going to be introduced at once. The Central Bank seems to stick to that despite the problems with the notes. If there are any good reasons for doing so, I do not know.

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Post by: Bimat on February 02, 2018, 03:58:03 PM
De La Rue invests Ksh286 million in expansion of Kenya operations

by Martin Mwita   
January 30, 2018

NAIROBI, KENYA, JAN 30 — Designer and commercial printer of banknotes — De La Rue has invested KShs286 million (US$2.9 million) in the expansion of its site in Kenya, to strengthen and underpin its local operations.

This is part of a long term investment of Ksh1.4 billion to upgrade its operational site in Nairobi, as it seeks to remain a regional hub for East Africa and the wider continent and a global centre of excellence for De La Rue.

The firm’s marketing director, Robin Mackenzie, says the huge investment in expansion of the site will standardise the firm’s global manufacturing footprint and increase its overall flexibility and capability.

This has the potential to create more jobs and enhance Kenya’s high tech export capability.

There are currently 300 employees on site.

Amongst other new capabilities, the upgrade includes the installation of a state of the art Komori Varnish Press and an increase to the overall factory size.

Mackenzie says the Varnish Press will enhance DLR Kenya’s service offering and its technical capability to meet the increasing market demand for more durable varnished banknotes.

The design and construction of the building is being undertaken by local Kenyan companies and all support services were sourced via the strong local Kenyan supply chain.

“This phase of the project is on plan for completion early 2018 and has brought together approximately 100 skilled Kenyan tradesmen from the local area,” he said.

The state of the art new destruction system is being installed at a cost of Ksh51.2million (US$512,000) and will allow De La Rue to securely manage end of life note destruction and disposal in accordance with its world class ISO 14298 and DIN66399 certifications.

It will also enable the firm to offer a complete one stop shop service to existing and potential customers, from design to destruction, in a highly secure environment and manage end of life note destruction and disposal for any banknote securely.

“The end waste product from the system is used as part of the De La Rue Kenya corporate social responsibility to the local community,” Mackenzie said.

The Ksh28.7million (US$287,000) state of the art air-lock loading bay will also ensure the firm continues to meet its commitment to ISO 14298 and its Intergraf accreditation requirements.

Its design and construction is being undertaken by local Kenyan companies  and is on schedule for completion next month.

The DLR Kenya site has been manufacturing for 25 years, and was the first and still is the only site on the African continent to hold the highest level of security accreditation covered by ISO 14298.

De La Rue designs, manufactures and delivers banknotes, banknote substrates and security features to customers in a world where currency continues to be a key part of the developing payments eco-system.

It is the only fully integrated supplier of both paper and polymer banknotes, and creates security features that ensure banknotes are protected against counterfeiting.

The London Stock Exchange (LON-DLAR) listed firm is the world’s largest commercial printer of passports, delivering national and international identity tokens and software solutions for governments in a world that is increasingly focused on the importance of a legal and secure identity for every individual.

It also creates and delivers secure product identifiers and ‘track and trace’ software for governments and commercial customers alike, to help to tackle the challenge of illicit or counterfeit goods and the collection of revenue and excise duties.

Source: Exchange (https://www.exchange.co.tz/de-la-rue-invests-ksh286-million-expansion-kenya-operations/)
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on February 02, 2018, 06:46:13 PM
De La Rue is extremely desperate. For some reason they seem to have the support of almost the entire industry.

I contacted mr Omtatah some time ago with a few questions but he did not bother to reply.
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Post by: eurocoin on February 10, 2018, 10:11:57 PM
After Mr Omtatah, De La Rue and De La Rue Kenya EPZ Ltd, now Swedish currency manufacturer Crane AB has also sued the Central Bank of Kenya. They say they quoted the best price and therefore demand that the tender is being awarded to them immediately.  :)
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Post by: eurocoin on April 14, 2018, 08:00:26 PM
Okiya Omtatah and Swedish currency printer Crane AB won the case against the Central Bank of Kenya. The judge last week declared the awarding of the currency printing tender by Central Bank Kenya to De La Rue, null and void. The judge has ordered Central Bank Kenya to re-evaluate all bids and to make a new decision. Central Bank Kenya has announced that they will appeal the decision of the court.
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Post by: Figleaf on April 14, 2018, 08:14:39 PM
For the sake of completeness, Crane AB is a subsidiary of Crane & Co Inc., a US company that holds a de facto monopoly on printing US banknotes, which is often seen as an implicit state subsidy of the US company.

Before 2002, Crane AB was known as AB Tumba Bruk, established in 1755 in Tumba.

Peter
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Post by: redlock on April 15, 2018, 09:55:26 AM
For the sake of completeness, Crane AB is a subsidiary of Crane & Co Inc., a US company that holds a de facto monopoly on printing US banknotes
Peter

Doesn't the BUREAU OF ENGRAVING AND PRINTING actually print the US banknotes while Crane supplies the ''paper'' only?
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Figleaf on April 15, 2018, 10:46:48 AM
You are right, but it doesn't change the train of thought.

Peter
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Post by: eurocoin on October 14, 2018, 05:17:23 PM
As Bimat posted earlier today, the Court of Appeal has yesterday decided that the Central Bank of Kenya did not commit collusion in awarding the currency printing tender to De La Rue. The Central Bank is now going to reschedule the issuance of the new currency and is looking to issue it as soon as possible. Hopefully we will soon at long last get to see the new coins.
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Post by: eurocoin on October 22, 2018, 09:57:45 AM
Activist Okiya Omtatah has appealed the decision of the Court of Appeal, the case has now been referred to the Supreme Court.

I contacted Omtatah earlier but he declined to comment.
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Post by: Pabitra on November 30, 2018, 05:30:29 AM
Finally awarded ( hopefully)

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/De-La-Rue-Sh11bn-deal-print-new-currency/4003102-4872126-j4cs8d/index.html

Does De La Rue get to mint coins too?
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Post by: eurocoin on November 30, 2018, 07:47:16 AM
Finally awarded ( hopefully)

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/De-La-Rue-Sh11bn-deal-print-new-currency/4003102-4872126-j4cs8d/index.html

Does De La Rue get to mint coins too?

This is old news. The tender was awarded to De La Rue long ago and that award has been challenged in court several times since. We will have to wait for a decision of the supreme court of Kenya. De La Rue is a banknote printer. They don't make coins.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Pabitra on November 30, 2018, 08:58:40 AM
This is old news.

Old?
The new bye line says 28th November.

They don't make coins.

If it was unified tender then they can get it made from any approved mint.
It depends on the tender conditions.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on November 30, 2018, 09:30:02 AM
Old?
The new bye line says 28th November.

If it was unified tender then they can get it made from any approved mint.
It depends on the tender conditions.

Yes, the news itself can still be old even if they have put a new date on it. It was not a unified tender.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Jostein on December 11, 2018, 09:45:30 AM
They are already here!! Very nice coins  ;)

Kshs 1 coin: Bears the image of a giraffe.
Kshs 5 coin: Bears the image of a rhino.
Kshs 10 coin: Bears the image of a lion.
Kshs 20 coin: Bears the image of an elephant.

(https://www.kenyans.co.ke/files/styles/article_inner/public/images/news/coins_kenya.jpg?itok=dfPat16H)
https://www.kenyans.co.ke/news/35347-kenyan-currency-photos-coins-launched-uhuru
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Pabitra on December 11, 2018, 10:32:30 AM
Great News
Thanks, Jostein

1 Shilling image is missing or only obverse is shown since it is not bimetallic
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Pabitra on December 11, 2018, 10:48:02 AM
The reverse
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: <k> on December 11, 2018, 12:43:49 PM
Yes, nice designs, though after a very long wait. Elephant, lion, rhino - well, there are plenty of these already on other circulation coins. Perhaps a serval or a hyena might have made a change. Nevertheless, the designs are nicely done and look original. However, there are not too many giraffes so far. We all remember the girafffes on the Rhodesia and Nyasaland coin, and recently there was this:

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17472.0;attach=77028;image)

South Sudan.  Similar to the Kenyan design? But then, how many poses does a giraffe have?
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: <k> on December 11, 2018, 01:08:11 PM
So, Kenya is done. What does that leave? Nigeria! As for me, I think it's time that Madagascar issued a totally new thematic set, preferably including some of its wildlife. See: What's your wish list for new national circulation sets? (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,37111.0.html).

Incidentally, does Sierra Leone have a full circulating set these days?
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: redlock on December 11, 2018, 02:07:47 PM
Really nice looking coins  8)
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: malawi on December 11, 2018, 02:53:57 PM
thanks for info !

Nice coins !! finally!
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on December 11, 2018, 03:58:37 PM
Well, that's surprising. At very long last  ::) The designs look ok although I am surprised there are no higher denominations. The highest denomination of 20 shillings equals to 17 euro cents/15 pence.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Pabitra on December 11, 2018, 06:15:20 PM
Kenya had a circulating 40 shilling ( a rather odd denomination) commemorative coin. They could have planned a 50 shilling coin.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: malawi on December 12, 2018, 01:21:09 AM
news about new banknotes ??
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on December 12, 2018, 07:58:59 AM
news about new banknotes ??

No. The only news about the banknotes is fake news.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Figleaf on December 12, 2018, 10:28:31 AM
Well done, eurocoin. Fast news is nice to have. True news is indispensable.

Peter
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on December 12, 2018, 01:49:19 PM
The Central Bank of Kenya refuses to say where the new coins were minted.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Big_M on December 12, 2018, 02:02:16 PM
Circumstantial evidence would suggest British Royal Mint.
Title: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Bimat on December 12, 2018, 03:34:08 PM
Kenya had a circulating 40 shilling ( a rather odd denomination) commemorative coin. They could have planned a 50 shilling coin.

A friend of mine lived in Kenya for some 3-4 years and she doesn't remember seeing one in change. IIRC, the coin commemorated 40th anniversary of independence?

Aditya
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Big_M on December 12, 2018, 04:14:54 PM
A friend of mine lived in Kenya for some 3-4 years and she doesn't remember seeing one in change. IIRC, the coin commemorated 40th anniversary of independence?


Yes, it is a Kenya@40 coin, in fact it must have circulated as there are many heavily damaged on the market. Only few were issued in special collectors holder.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Pabitra on December 12, 2018, 08:15:30 PM
That is right.
1963-2003 but issued only in 2010
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Big_M on December 12, 2018, 11:46:15 PM
That is right.
1963-2003 but issued only in 2010

Are you sure they were only issued in 2010? Certainly, they were gazetted in December 2003, see link.

http://kenyalaw.org/kl/fileadmin/pdfdownloads/LegalNotices/2003/210-CentralBankofKenyaAct_DescriptionofNewIssueofFortyShillingsCoinandTwoHundredShillingsNote__2003.pdf (http://kenyalaw.org/kl/fileadmin/pdfdownloads/LegalNotices/2003/210-CentralBankofKenyaAct_DescriptionofNewIssueofFortyShillingsCoinandTwoHundredShillingsNote__2003.pdf)
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Pabitra on December 13, 2018, 02:26:04 AM
Perhaps approved in 2003, minted subsequently but issued(?).

I think this coin, showing the third president, was the one which caused all the uproar and led to constitutional amendment which added article 231(4) in 2010,  mandating issue of new currency without depiction of any person. This was in 2010 and mandated the new currency to be issued by 2015and then only this coin was released. The new coins finally just got issued in 2018 and we still await the notes, if at all they are to be issued.

Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Big_M on December 13, 2018, 01:04:15 PM
Some nice materials published by CBK on Twitter:
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Big_M on December 13, 2018, 01:04:37 PM
20Sh
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Big_M on December 13, 2018, 01:04:55 PM
10Sh
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Big_M on December 13, 2018, 01:05:11 PM
5Sh
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Big_M on December 13, 2018, 01:05:34 PM
1Sh
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: africancoins on December 13, 2018, 07:19:27 PM
These new types do seem to have nice designs.

As for the 40 Shillings 2003 - I got mine in May-2004 - a bit more info here....

http://africa.worldofcoins.eu/af-ken.htm

Thanks Mr Paul Baker
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Pabitra on December 14, 2018, 03:20:34 AM
The release function does get to issue a small number of coins to attending persons

See

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D7uQWsDLvP0

However, the issue to general public is much later.


I would really like to know about the chronology of introduction of that constitutional amendment.


Similar sequence of events is also unfolding in India. New coins are released but never issued to general public. Finally, the government appears to have given up the idea of circulating commemoratives altogether but then, that needs to be taken up in a different thread.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Big_M on December 14, 2018, 07:01:57 AM
This BBC report also indicates that the 40Sh coin went into circulation in December 2003, and the row started immediately.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3311047.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3311047.stm)
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Pabitra on December 14, 2018, 08:44:33 AM
The party in power in 2003, has announced in their election manifesto, to end personality cult.
They had come to power for the first time, after having been in opposition for long ( ever since independence) due to personality cult of the first President. It was the effigy of second president appearing on coins that resulted in continuation of personality cult and led the opposition to announce that they will end the cult.
However, on getting elected, they started to work on that cult development and to ensure the effigy, they announced 40th Anniversary, which is a non standard. They could not have waited for Golden anniversary. Thus controversy started and coins were withheld.

A similar( not exactly same) is case of 2 Balboa of Panama which was minted but whose release has been withheld or Nigeria set which were designed but never minted. Makes very interesting reading nevertheless.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on December 20, 2018, 09:29:58 AM
The Consumer Federation of Kenya has sued the Central Bank of Kenya. They demand that the minting and printing of the new coins and notes is stopped immediately and that the design process starts from scratch. According to them the Central Bank of Kenya violates article 10 of the Kenyan constitution as the bank should have consulted the public. Strange as that is exactly what the bank did (https://www.centralbank.go.ke/images/docs/media/2012/cbk%20currency%20design.pdf).
Title: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Bimat on December 20, 2018, 03:34:40 PM
The Consumer Federation of Kenya has sued the Central Bank of Kenya. They demand that the minting and printing of the new coins and notes is stopped immediately and that the design process starts from scratch. According to them the Central Bank of Kenya violates article 10 of the Kenyan constitution as the bank should have consulted the public. Strange as that is exactly what the bank did (https://www.centralbank.go.ke/images/docs/media/2012/cbk%20currency%20design.pdf).

Example of too much of democracy?  ;D

Aditya
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: <k> on December 20, 2018, 05:28:26 PM
It's interesting to see that the new coins are denominated in Kenyas.

20 Kenya. Sounds like a packet of cigarettes.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on December 20, 2018, 05:44:10 PM
It's interesting to see that the new coins are denominated in Kenyas.

20 Kenya. Sounds like a packet of cigarettes.

I thought the same. Very strange.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Pabitra on December 21, 2018, 03:04:08 AM
Example of too much of democracy?  ;D


I think increasingly corrupt judiciary, willing to delay every executive action for paltry sums. Sure sign of "undeveloping nation". You can find similar examples in many other nations. New word for this is " judicial overreach".
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: quaziright on December 21, 2018, 05:54:35 AM
It's interesting to see that the new coins are denominated in Kenyas.

20 Kenya. Sounds like a packet of cigarettes.

Maybe it’s a way to introduce an eventually change tkt he currency name, since they still use the word Shillingi along the rim?
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Pabitra on December 31, 2018, 02:55:42 AM
See

https://youtu.be/YRPYqsRkreA
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Pabitra on January 08, 2019, 11:23:10 AM
Kenya is restricting issue of new coins.

https://www.nation.co.ke/business/CBK-caps-new-coins-issuance/996-4925322-820g94/index.html

Why?

General public has not been able to lay their hands on them

https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/cbk-mum-on-circulation-of-new-coins-weeks-after-launch/

Perhaps only small quantity was minted to meet the constitutional requirements
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on January 08, 2019, 02:24:41 PM
CBK says no cap on new coins issuance

The Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) has clarified to the public that there is no issuance limit on new coins as reported in section of press on Tuesday. In a statement CBK admitted that it placed a cap during the sensitisation period but this has since been lifted and no restriction on amount of coin an individual can obtain exists. “During the sensitisation phase immediately following the launch of the New Generation coins, the amount per person was limited to allow the widest possible distribution.”

“This was communicated to all banking institutions on December 14, 2018. However, following a positive assessment of the sensitization campaign, CBK communicated to all banking institutions on December 20, 2018, informing them that the limit had been lifted.”
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Pabitra on January 09, 2019, 12:00:32 PM
CBK enjoys zero credibility their own country as well as internationally. The results are for all to see. What was decided to be done in 2010, was barely done by 2018.
See the local media

http://www.kbc.co.ke/cbk-claims-restricting-issuance-new-coins/

https://www.tuko.co.ke/295491-cbk-denies-issued-limit-coins-distributed-kenyans.html#295491

https://www.pulselive.co.ke/news/central-bank-issues-limit-on-issuance-of-new-kenyan-currency-coins/hw7073f

https://sokodirectory.com/2019/01/cbk-governor-disputes-claims-of-restriction-of-issuance-of-new-currency-coins/


If the coins were being distributed as claimed, they would not enjoy the premium, as here

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233058583302
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on January 16, 2019, 04:54:19 PM
The first coin set was presented to the Kenyan president in a specific type of packaging that is exclusive to the Royal Mint.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on January 16, 2019, 07:41:41 PM
The Consumer Federation of Kenya has sued the Central Bank of Kenya. They demand that the minting and printing of the new coins and notes is stopped immediately and that the design process starts from scratch. According to them the Central Bank of Kenya violates article 10 of the Kenyan constitution as the bank should have consulted the public. Strange as that is exactly what the bank did (https://www.centralbank.go.ke/images/docs/media/2012/cbk%20currency%20design.pdf).

In reply to their tweet about this I informed them that the Central Bank of Kenya did in fact consult the public and so that there is no violation of Article 10 of the Kenyan constitution at all. I also referred them to the document confirming this (credits to our member <k>). Furthermore I told that there is no real reason for them to sue CBK as there are no complaints whatsoever about the new designs. The Consumer Federation of Kenya got furious and amongst other things told me to search for a job as their opponents lawyer. Both CBK and its governor were tagged in the tweets (though not by me).  :)
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Pabitra on April 13, 2019, 06:58:14 AM
If the design, printing and issue of new currency notes still caught in a tug of war, why not issue a 50 Shilling coin


CBK cuts supply of battered Sh50 notes as it raises coins? circulation : The (https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001320739/cbk-cuts-supply-of-battered-sh50-notes-as-it-raises-coins-circulation)
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on July 05, 2019, 05:17:24 PM
Mr Omtatah has started a new case against the Central Bank of Kenya in which he demands the new notes and coins to be withdrawn. He was informed by the National Assembly that 3 legal notices of 7 December 2018 and 31 May 2019 that were made by the Central Bank of Kenya should have been sent to the National Assembly within 7 days, which never happened. Because of that they by law became invalid as a result of which the issuance of the new coins and notes was illegal.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on September 18, 2019, 08:20:28 PM
On Friday 27 September (next week) the High Court of Kenya will decide whether the new Kenyan currency and the demonetization of the old 1,000 shillings banknote is illegal. More specifically the following 3 arguments were mentioned by Mr Omtatah who started the case:

1. Based on the Kenyan constitution, the Central Bank of Kenya should have consulted the public on the new currency, which it didn't. Therefore the new currency is illegal.

This argument was proven to be incorrect. Based on information posted on the forum by <k>, CBK did in fact consult the public for concepts for the new currency.



2. Three legal notices made by the Central Bank of Kenya should have been sent to the National Assembly within 7 days, which never happened. Because of that they by law became invalid. Two of the notices were respectively about the introduction of the new coins and the new banknotes. The third notice was about the demonetization of the old 1,000 shillings banknote on 1 October 2019.

Both CBK and the National Assembly acknowledged that the notices indeed were not sent (in time) to the National Assembly.



3. According to the Kenyan consitution, Kenyan currency may not bear the portrait of any individual. The new banknotes depict an image of the Kenyan International Convention Center with a statue of former Kenyan president Mzee Jomo Kenyatta in front of it.

CBK has argued that the statue is part of the building. Omtatah said this was not the case as it was unveiled 1 year before the opening of the KICC. The judges went to see the statue themselves to be able to make a decision. During the visit they determined that there is 80 metres between the building and the statue.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=94463;image)
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: Big_M on September 19, 2019, 09:53:36 AM
On Friday 27 September (next week) the High Court of Kenya will decide whether the new Kenyan currency is illegal. More specifically the following 3 arguments were mentioned by Mr Omtatah who started the case:

3. According to the Kenyan consitution, Kenyan currency may not bear the portrait of any individual. The 1,000 shillings note depicts an image of the Kenyan International Convention Center with a statue of former Kenyan president Mzee Jomo Kenyatta in front of it.

CBK has argued that the statue is part of the building. Omtatah said this was not the case as it was unveiled 1 year before the opening of the KICC. The judges went to see the statue themselves to be able to make a decision.


I believe that not only Sh1000 but all banknotes from this series show the Kenyatta statue.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on September 19, 2019, 10:03:15 AM
You appear to be correct. I have amended it in my message.
Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on September 27, 2019, 12:48:26 PM
Okiya Omtatah and Simon Mbugua have lost their cases. The High Court has ruled that the Kenyatta statue is not 'a portrait of an individual', is part of the KICC and does not need to be removed from the notes. Furthermore the Court ruled that there was sufficient public participation in the making of the new currency. The High Court bench also sustained the September 30 deadline by which the old Sh1,000 series note will be demonetized saying the Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) had allowed adequate time for the exchange of the notes with the new ones.

1 of the 3 judges had a dissenting opinion.

Title: Re: Kenya: New Series of Coins and Banknotes 2018
Post by: eurocoin on October 03, 2019, 09:38:03 AM
The full judgement can be found here (http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/180928/). In the dissenting opinion written by 1 of the 3 judges he mentioned that he agreed with Omtatah that the statue of Kenyatta that can be found on all of the new banknotes is a portrait and therefore in violation of the constitution. He would have declared the banknotes invalid at a certain point in the future so that CBK had enough time to in the meantime print new notes without the statue. He agreed with the other judges that the other arguments of Omtatah were dismissed.

Reaction of Okiya Omtatah: "They are not interpreting the Constitution in a manner that sustains it and develops the law. They are doing it in a manner that frustrates and limits it.We are going to appeal the decision."