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Adjacent hobbies => Historical artefacts other than coins => Topic started by: gpimper on November 03, 2019, 05:07:20 AM

Title: North America
Post by: gpimper on November 03, 2019, 05:07:20 AM
Not sure were to post this stuff :-)  (even if I should)  I dug this up when I was 13 years old.  I found another about five feet away that is about five times that size:-) This one is, I think, a medical bowl.  They broke off the handle and punched a hole in the base...very cool find :-)
Title: Re: North America
Post by: THCoins on November 03, 2019, 10:01:30 AM
Nice artefact ! To get a bit of perspective, what size is this ?
Title: Re: North America
Post by: gpimper on November 03, 2019, 01:50:25 PM
pretty small, 12 cm high by about 12 cm round.  All of my finds were on private land, just for the record.  Anything like that found on public land must be reported and turned in :-(
Title: Re: North America
Post by: gpimper on November 03, 2019, 04:58:12 PM
Pic of the other I found.  We had 10 acres in eastern Arizona and it was a treasure trove!  There was an old flash flood ditch at the edge of our property.  Most of this stuff was at least three feet down if not more.  I'll post some of the points I found :-)  Seems the area had been used for at least 10000 years.  Small Clovis(?) point I dug up (just over 5 cm).  This one isn't as old but it's a great find...Bajada Projectile Point (http://www.projectilepoints.net/Points/Bajada.html).  6cm
Title: Re: North America
Post by: Quant.Geek on November 05, 2019, 03:01:01 AM
That is very nice and especially when you consider it was in your backyard!  :o. Why can't I get that luck.  Nothing like that up in New York. I have few Mayan artifacts that I will post.
Title: Re: North America
Post by: gpimper on November 05, 2019, 04:13:52 AM
I'd love to see 'em!  Love me some Mexico history!  We were digging an irrigation ditch on the west side of our property for our neighbor...you wouldn't believe some of the stuff we found!  I think the bison scull was my favorite (unfortunately it's been gone fore years...my mother hated it ;-) 
Title: Re: North America
Post by: Quant.Geek on November 05, 2019, 05:57:13 PM
If it was me, I would take a metal detector and ground penetrating radar and go out and have some fun!  Who knows what you would find, especially when you already know there is something out there. 

Here are some of my artifacts:

Pre-Columbian, Guatemala, Mayan Late Classic Period (ca. 550-900 CE) Poison Jar

(https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Maya_Poison_Jar.jpg)


Pre-Columbian, Guatemala and Southern Mexico, Mayan Late Classic Period, Copador, (ca. 700-900 CE) Copador Polychrome

(https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Guatemala_Copador_Polychrome_Olla.jpg)


Pre-Columbian, Mayan, Ulua Valley, Honduras (ca. 550-900 CE) Four-legged Rattle Plate/Bowl

(https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Ulua_Valley_Rattle_Plate.jpg)


Pre-Columbian, Southern Mexico and Northern Central America, Mayan Territories, Late Classic (ca. 550-900 CE) Rattle-Legged Tripod Plate

(https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Mayan_Territories_Rattle-Legged_Tripod_Plate.jpg)


Higher-resolution pictures are available here: Classical Numismatics Discussion Members' Gallery - Antiques - Pottery (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=6564)
Title: Re: North America
Post by: Prosit on November 05, 2019, 06:42:00 PM
I live in Texas and in central Central Texas where I used to live was a sandy-soil farm (I worked there a short while as an early teen) that sat on a high point between two branches of a creek/river (the Bosque). I worked for the owner and after a rain, in the sand we would find arrowheads and spear points mostly and occasionally bird points. Considering the area and depending on what time frame they came from could have been Apache, Comanche, or even Tonkawa but most likely Comanche.

Today all I have left is a grind stone (might have a point or two in a box somewhere) but since it was my mother's it is an even more prized possession to me.

You have a nice collection there!!
Thanks for sharing.

Dale
Title: Re: North America
Post by: Prosit on November 05, 2019, 06:47:49 PM
Ground penetrating radar....if there is much clay in the soil or rock the GPR will be of little to no help.

I have used GPR, VLF, electrical resistivity and a couple other tools in environmental surveys/investigations.
Great tools! But each have their strengths and weaknesses.

Dale


Quote from: Quant.Geek on November 05, 2019, 05:57:13 PM
If it was me, I would take a metal detector and ground penetrating radar and go out and have some fun!  Who knows what you would find, especially when you already know there is something out there. 

Here are some of my artifacts:

Pre-Columbian, Guatemala, Mayan Late Classic Period (ca. 550-900 CE) Poison Jar

(https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Maya_Poison_Jar.jpg)


Pre-Columbian, Guatemala and Southern Mexico, Mayan Late Classic Period, Copador, (ca. 700-900 CE) Copador Polychrome

(https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Guatemala_Copador_Polychrome_Olla.jpg)


Pre-Columbian, Mayan, Ulua Valley, Honduras (ca. 550-900 CE) Four-legged Rattle Plate/Bowl

(https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Ulua_Valley_Rattle_Plate.jpg)


Pre-Columbian, Southern Mexico and Northern Central America, Mayan Territories, Late Classic (ca. 550-900 CE) Rattle-Legged Tripod Plate

(https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Mayan_Territories_Rattle-Legged_Tripod_Plate.jpg)


Higher-resolution pictures are available here: Classical Numismatics Discussion Members' Gallery - Antiques - Pottery (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=6564)
Title: Re: North America
Post by: gpimper on November 06, 2019, 12:59:59 PM
Those are amazing!  Here is one of the pieces I recovered when we were excavating our irrigation ditch.  It was pretty busted up put I managed to piece it mostly back together.  Anasazi I think but possibly Mogollan.   16cm across and about 6cm in depth.

Dale, have you ever made it down the Fossil Park just north of Ladonia, Tx?  One of the few places in Texas that allows free picking (unless it's museum grade but we don't know what that even means :-) Some amazing fossils! I'll post if there is interest :-)  I know, totally not coins.
Title: Re: North America
Post by: gpimper on November 07, 2019, 03:02:29 PM
Another interesting find.  I don't know who made it but cool...quartzite projectile head.  Looks old!  Just under 5cm.  Thinking about...possibly a small hand axe or a hide scraper.  Interesting, though.  I've a really puzzling one to post next ;-)

My little helper is not really helpful but she has fun.  Chert point, 7cm.  No idea how old.  I had it on a paper plate for the photo but that was taken away by my helper  :-\  she's a happy turd :-)
Title: Re: North America
Post by: FosseWay on November 08, 2019, 12:16:57 PM
Y'all find much more interesting stuff in your back yards than I do.

When I excavated the only place on my property that's flat enough and has deep enough soil to grow veg I found:

- assorted broken builders' tools
- several partial tinplate and leather buckets
- parts of a toilet
- numerous beer bottles, pickled herring tins and vinegar bottles
- 75 öre in assorted small change, mostly corroded (WW1 iron coinage really doesn't keep well outdoors in the Swedish climate)

All of the above is probably waste buried by the people who built my house in the early 1930s. Conclusion: They ate a heck of a lot of herring for their lunch and were not completely sober on the job. I have no idea what the vinegar was for.
Title: Re: North America
Post by: gpimper on November 08, 2019, 01:09:53 PM
Never been a fan of pickled herring but beer on the other hand... ;D  Yes, the vinegar is a head scratcher. 

Here is just one of our fossil finds.  We go out there probably four times a year.  Big box full but most are just too beat up by the elements to really identify.  This one is relatively young (probably only about 2 million years is my guess).
Title: Re: North America
Post by: gpimper on November 08, 2019, 11:27:16 PM
Obsidian bird point I came across.  Had to have been traded as my part of Arizona didn't have much in the way of obsidian.  A lot of petrified wood and agate.  Makes me wonder were from  ???  Less than 2cm.  It's teeny.
Title: Re: North America
Post by: Prosit on November 09, 2019, 02:16:25 AM
A lot of stuff I have read call the small ones bird points.
Seems to make sense to me.

Dale




Quote from: gpimper on November 08, 2019, 11:27:16 PM
Obsidian bird point I came across.  Had to have been traded as my part of Arizona didn't have much in the way of obsidian.  A lot of petrified wood and agate.  Makes me wonder were from  ???  Less than 2cm.  It's teeny.
Title: Re: North America
Post by: gpimper on November 09, 2019, 02:44:32 AM
Two types of bird point, one had a point and the other was blunt (just knock the bird down).  I'll post :-)
Title: Re: North America
Post by: gpimper on November 09, 2019, 03:23:08 AM
We were just digging and I said "wow" and picked it out of the mud :-)

This would take for ever!  Three posts coming.  Post One :-)  The long one in the center is cool, used to punch holes in hides, an awl I believe.

#2 added.  Sorry that some were already posted.  Just my display cases.  The big one left of the Clovis point I think could be a pre-Clovis hand axe but I've not had that verified.  Would be cool...talking 11000 years old!

Display #3

Added, chert hand axe.  6.5cm but about 3cm thick and 29.2 ounces...it's a bruiser!  My father was playing a job sponsored softball game and I was board...that's what I found :-)  Pretty rock, chert. That one was a worker for sure!

Added, a huge agate spear point I found during a dig in western New Mexico.  She's a bruiser.  It was found with fosses from mammoths and giant Ice age bison :-)