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Title: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Galapagos on October 27, 2009, 06:40:13 PM
This time I will have seven very nice scans for you to look at. But first of all, I'm going to post only three of them - heavily edited to remove any easy clues. Once somebody has guessed which country they are from, the eventual scans I will post will be larger and more detailed, and also more attractive than these partial ones.

OK, who's going to be the first to guess?  :)
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Austrokiwi on October 27, 2009, 07:43:56 PM
Togo?
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Galapagos on October 27, 2009, 07:56:29 PM
An interesting guess, Austrokiwi. All I'll say for now is no, you're not even warm, but good on you for trying. I knew this one would be tough, though.   8)
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: andyg on October 27, 2009, 07:59:48 PM
Rhodesia?
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Galapagos on October 27, 2009, 08:03:15 PM
That's nowhere near either. I thought this would be interesting. You'll be surprised when you find out.
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: andyg on October 27, 2009, 08:06:39 PM
Since all your recent scans have been African, I naively presumed these would be >:(
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: chrisild on October 27, 2009, 08:46:34 PM
Somehow they have a Nordic or Celtic touch. But that 2 1/2 denomination ... beats me.

Christian
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Galapagos on October 27, 2009, 08:49:14 PM
Certainly not Nordic, though it's interesting to see the range of responses I'm getting. Celtic - not in modern times - and I don't know enough about prehistory to say anything about that...
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Afrasi on October 27, 2009, 08:52:18 PM
Singapore
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: UK Decimal + on October 27, 2009, 08:53:09 PM
I'm thinking of somewhere that last had its own coinage in 1706, ended by something commemorated in 2007 on a couple of UK coins.   Somewhere where banknotes are issued.   Scotland.

Bill.
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Galapagos on October 27, 2009, 08:58:03 PM
Scotland is way off too. Is it those little crosses you're thinking of? They're the wrong way round to be Scottish. This is proving fascinating - all these different guesses.

Singapore is nowhere close either, Afrasi. What a range I'm getting here!
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: chrisild on October 27, 2009, 09:06:12 PM
Admittedly it is only the first piece, with the somewhat archaic looking lion, that made me think of Celtic culture. And the ornaments along the edges of these three reminded me of elements that can be found on Danish pieces, that's why. :) OK, wrong then. Hmm, let us approach this more carefully ... Asia.

Christian
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Galapagos on October 27, 2009, 09:07:40 PM
Asia? You could have a point there. Though if you said that, it could cause arguments...
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Afrasi on October 27, 2009, 09:10:08 PM
The dragon makes it probably, that a Chinese minority/majority? lives there.

Hong Kong ?
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: chrisild on October 27, 2009, 09:15:07 PM
Are you trying to suggest that these could be designs for Turkey? The "look" is not quite right methinks, but the "2 1/2" could match, and of course that "argument" hint ...

Christian
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Galapagos on October 27, 2009, 09:15:07 PM
No, it's not in any way Chinese-related. Lots of countries include dragons in their historical myths.

Turkey, I have to say, is getting close, Christian.
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Figleaf on October 27, 2009, 09:15:49 PM
The deleted denominations are very short. Kyat, pya is my guess.

Peter
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Galapagos on October 27, 2009, 09:16:43 PM
The deleted denominations are very short. Kyat, pya is my guess.

Peter

No - you're way out too, Peter! This is proving to be an interesting worldwide trip!  :D
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Afrasi on October 27, 2009, 09:19:43 PM
Eagle, 2 1/2 ?

Syria?
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Galapagos on October 27, 2009, 09:20:14 PM
No, not Syria either.
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Afrasi on October 27, 2009, 09:21:19 PM
Eagle and Lion

Yemen?
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: chrisild on October 27, 2009, 09:21:47 PM
Hmm, I am currently looking at some pieces from Georgia, and there is a lion and a gryphon. But no 2 1/2. Hmm.

Christian
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Galapagos on October 27, 2009, 09:24:45 PM
It isn't the Yemen, though I can see where you're coming from. Georgia is another intelligent guess - when I saw these designs, I immediately thought the same - but that's wrong too!
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Afrasi on October 27, 2009, 09:28:34 PM
Eagle and dragon kites ...

Should it be at last ... Afghanistan?
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Galapagos on October 27, 2009, 09:30:21 PM
No, not Afghanistan. You have to think of the clues. If you said, "Afghanistan is in Asia", nobody would argue with you.
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: chrisild on October 27, 2009, 10:08:15 PM
No, not Afghanistan.

Ah, but we could go through the alphabet from there. ;)  This darn 2 1/2 denomination still confuses me.  Judging from the geographical hints, I would now guess Cyprus ...

Christian
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: andyg on October 27, 2009, 11:14:35 PM
Ah, but we could go through the alphabet from there. ;)  This darn 2 1/2 denomination still confuses me.  Judging from the geographical hints, I would now guess Cyprus ...

Christian

Just a thought, but 2½ = 6 Old Pence or 4½ Piastres in Cyprus's case.
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Galapagos on October 27, 2009, 11:52:24 PM
Ah, but we could go through the alphabet from there. ;)  This darn 2 1/2 denomination still confuses me.  Judging from the geographical hints, I would now guess Cyprus ...

Christian

Guess you win the cigar, Christian! You were the first to get close, and now you've got it! This 2½ denomination was never actually used. I said it wouldn't be easy!

The designs were all by William Gardner (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,9030.0.html), who designed the reverse of the UK 20p (1982-2008). He also designed the reverses of the first decimal coins of the Falkland Islands.

Anyway, here are all the prototype designs. Marvellous work by the late Mr Gardner.
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: Galapagos on October 28, 2009, 12:14:35 AM
I'm quite fond of this set. The ancient times theme is somewhat different from the norm. Interesting that only one of the prototype designs was used in the end. And of course, the Cecil Thomas crowned effigy of QEII appears on the obverse.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=92197;image)



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=92198;image)

 
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: chrisild on October 28, 2009, 06:24:50 PM
This 2½ denomination was never actually used.

No wonder I/we had such a hard time finding amatching piece in our collections and catalogs ...  Interesting to see such Coulda Been designs, and compare them to some that were actually minted. Thank you for digging these up and showing them to us!

Christian
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: gpimper on April 10, 2019, 11:24:04 PM
Lion tells us that this would be either North African or Asian...however, that could be Greek or Alexandrian...my girl says Syria or Lebanon...just our guess :-)
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: <k> on April 10, 2019, 11:27:28 PM
Yes, confusing! But the designs were meant for Cyprus: geographically in Asia, but with native Greek speakers and native Turkish speakers - so, ethnically and culturally, a bit of Europe and a bit of Asia.
Title: Re: Mystery coin designs - guess which country!
Post by: gpimper on April 17, 2019, 12:34:57 AM
Wicked :-)