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Medieval and cash coins => Islamic world => Topic started by: andyg on April 13, 2019, 10:35:52 PM

Title: Mystery: Ghaznavid Bull Jital, Bahram Shah
Post by: andyg on April 13, 2019, 10:35:52 PM
I have no idea what this small coin is really - never seen another one.
2.9g
Title: Re: Mystery
Post by: saro on April 14, 2019, 04:34:35 PM
looks like a Ghaznavid jital  ???
the 1st picture could be a (very...) corrupt bull design ?
It seems to me that G&G: GZ49 / GZ50 / GZ56 are not very far from your coin...
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Post by: THCoins on April 14, 2019, 06:01:34 PM
Agree, In upper pic part of Sri SaMa.. above bull. In lower pic "Yamini" in circle.
Tye#111, G&G GZ49.
Title: Re: Mystery
Post by: andyg on April 14, 2019, 08:45:13 PM
This one is so different to the picture in G&G I was lost with it,  It's the most abstract bull I've seen.
Thanks very much once again.
Title: Re: Mystery
Post by: EWC on April 15, 2019, 09:22:40 AM
To clarify this "mystery" - the bull is almost off the flan here.  What the "obverse" mostly shows is a chunk of inscription.

The real mystery here is - who struck these ‘sunburst’ coins?  Prior to "Jitals" this series of coins were attributed to the Sultans of Delhi.  As best I recall Bill Spengler challenged this, and had them straddling both Ghaznavid and Ghorid rule.   I acknowledged his contribution in a footnote, but my wife and I eventually decided to make them all Ghaznavid.  As in other cases, we were led more by looking at the coins themselves, rather than ideas gained from history books.  Stan Goran then followed our judgement.

It is however, only a best guess, these coins as a whole remain somewhat mysterious.

Rob T
Title: Re: Mystery
Post by: capnbirdseye on April 15, 2019, 10:40:02 AM
Here's one showing a bit more of the Bull
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Post by: gpimper on April 16, 2019, 05:31:45 AM
So what do we have here?